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The New Rules of Lifting - The Original Based on the original book by Lou Schuler with workout programs by Alwyn Cosgrove

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Old 03-02-2008, 01:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I was just wondering how many advanced lifters used this book (i think there is a definition in there) and what your results have been?

I've been training (powerlifting/bodybuilding) and eating properly non stop for about 7 years, and have made significant gains, however started to experience a few injuries. I believe part of this to be due to the one body part a day routine creating individually strong muscles, but a weak core unit.

I was hoping to find out what other results (good or bad) other 'advanced' lifters had experienced?

Currently I feel my core is getting stronger all the time, and my weak body parts are also catching up, but as of the massive change to what i'm used to i'm begininning to think my good body parts are beginning to decline (i'm pretty sure this is all in my head though as i'm just used to hitting each body part with hour long workouts!!!)
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Old 03-05-2008, 01:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I consider myself semi-advanced...I'd been doing squats, deadlifts, power cleans, etc, (lifting right) for about 6 years before I started the NROL workouts. But trust me when I tell you that if you do the NROL workouts with the correct intensity, you'll improve.

In regards to your injuries, Alwyn Cosgrove is sort of a "functional" freak so all his workouts target functional growth, strength, and balance. Often, the "each body part per workout" leaves your body overworked in certain areas, leading to small injuries that add up. Give it a shot, since overhualing your routine will definitely shock your body past a plateau.
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Old 03-06-2008, 05:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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So have you experienced good gains then?

I feel good and the knee injuries (the reason i started this type of training) I had picked up from trying to focus on specific muscles have nearly totally healed (touch wood!).

I can't be sure on muscle growth, because i haven't been measuring accurately and my mind plays tricks depending on my mood (if im having a good day i look like popeye, on a bad day olive oil!) but i'm sure my fat % has decrease as of the mass of compound exercises supersetted with minimal rest!
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Absolutely.

A little info about me that may help you. I started the book at 5'11, 188lbs, I'm guessing 14% bodyfat (totally guessed). I did the Fat loss 1-3 workouts along with a revamped diet, and dropped to 175lbs and approx 10% bodyfat. Not only that, my max bench increased by about 20 pounds! (who'd have thought?)
I continued with Hypertrophy 1-3 and I've been getting bigger and stronger since then, and my bodyfat has continued to decrease (slowly).

In summary, if you do the workouts following the given rest periods and high enough intensity, you'll feel like you're on top of the world after each workout.

Hope this helps, and if not, what exactly are your goals?
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Old 03-11-2008, 03:18 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Sounds good,

I haven't got any goals really. When I was in uni and had loads of free time it was all about size and i could afford to just train, sleep and eat all day. However now i work full time and live with my girlfriend so i have to fit my workouts in were i can. I was missing workouts, but because this routine can be done so quickly i'm getting them in on my lunch break and now i'm wondering whether i can get some of my size back.

As I've mentioned on previous posts, the fact that i don't get to do a hours chest workout or hit biceps hard is scaring me. I don't know whether its in my head or because im losing fat, but i'm sure my arms are shrinking!!! but i'm just trying to let go of my old ways of training and embrace this.

I tell you what though...... i'm about 6 weeks in and i don't think i'll ever get used to supersetting deadlifts and squats for 15 reps!!!!
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Old 03-11-2008, 07:14 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I tell you what though...... i'm about 6 weeks in and i don't think i'll ever get used to supersetting deadlifts and squats for 15 reps!!!!
Are you talking about Hyp IB? That should not be a superset - they should be done as straight sets.
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Old 03-11-2008, 11:21 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Lol, i've skimmed over that, just assumed the whole thing was supersets!!!

Hahahahaha, well i think you should all give it a try its solid!!!!!

Going to be a shame to do it the correct way now... gutted!!!
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Old 03-15-2008, 07:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Absolutely.

A little info about me that may help you. I started the book at 5'11, 188lbs, I'm guessing 14% bodyfat (totally guessed). I did the Fat loss 1-3 workouts along with a revamped diet, and dropped to 175lbs and approx 10% bodyfat. Not only that, my max bench increased by about 20 pounds! (who'd have thought?)
I continued with Hypertrophy 1-3 and I've been getting bigger and stronger since then, and my bodyfat has continued to decrease (slowly).

In summary, if you do the workouts following the given rest periods and high enough intensity, you'll feel like you're on top of the world after each workout.

Hope this helps, and if not, what exactly are your goals?
what body type would u say u are?
and what was ur diet as far as ratio's go? im trying to find something that works for me but ive been putting on fat lately with no muscle gain, idk if its my diet or routine (haven't started NROL yet) but my workouts have been progressive so idk whats wrong
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