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02-25-2008, 12:23 PM
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Increasing Weight during FL-I proving difficult
Started Break In this January. Did break-in 3 times a week, 5 times per each workout (A & B), for a total of 10. After the 6th workout I got sick for a week and had to take some time off. Finished up break-in took 5 days off and started FL-I.
Im 5'9 and when I started I think I weighed about 195. Anyways my squats started at 115x15, now im FL-I im only at 125 doing 15x3, and my form gets shaky in the last few reps of the final set, find I lean a lil forward too much to get the weight up.
My deadlifts started at 95, now i can do 115, but my RDL takes a hit at only 95.
Why am I unable to regularily increase my weight? I thought beginners had an advantage and increased their weight often?
If I up my weight I cant even finish the first set.
Also my weight loss has slowed down a lot. Im 188 today when I weighed but other days it will say 192, fluctuates a lot, and I usually weight myself at the same time.
Im def seeing results in my body, was just hoping to see the weight drop of a lil easier as I am eating clean, and working out 3x a week like a fiend.
Going to start tracking my food intake on Fit Day again make sure im getting right # of cals in.
Am I doing something wrong?
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02-25-2008, 12:53 PM
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Enjoying himself...
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Sounds like me...
CTweezy,
Our situations are very similar. I started in January and am experiencing a similar frustration--I've described it differently but it sounds like the same problem. Cynic replied to my thread of yesterday with some thoughts that might be helpful. Read especially his elaboration in his second response.
Question: Are you going for failure on each set or just the last set of a given exercise?
Our experience with the weight moved is close. As a matter of fact, right now we are lifting about the same weight. I'm at 115 on the DL's and 105 on the squats.
SEE thread: "My approach and what do you think?"
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02-25-2008, 01:00 PM
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Personally, I wouldn't worry about it too much. On the third workout of FLI, you move down to 12 reps, so you should be able to increase the weight again. I think that's the purpose of the constant changing of the routine, so you don't plateau.
Another thing to consider is now you are doing 3 sets, as opposed to two. So, you are lifting alot more weight. 2x15x115 = 3450, where as 3x15x125 = 5625. That's a 63% increase in total weight lifted.
Another thing that I find is, if you are moving up weight on the alternate exercise in the superset, it can sometimes affect how much you can do in the first exercise. The rest periods are pretty short, so general fatigue is a pretty big factor, atleast for me.
And as far as the romanian deadlifts, that is one of your last exercises, so you are bound to be more tired than when you started fresh with your regular deadlift.
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02-26-2008, 08:46 AM
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Cheesy Rack Guy Wannabe
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Nutrition's critical for your success - what are you doing for pre/post-workout nutrition? Also, are you getting enough sleep?
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02-27-2008, 03:20 PM
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Enjoying himself...
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CTwizzy
Going to start tracking my food intake on Fit Day again make sure im getting right # of cals in.
Am I doing something wrong?
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CT,
How'd the cal tracking go? I was thinking yesterday about a time several years ago when I went thru a three month spell and couldn't add 2lbs to my squats, DLs, or bench. (obviously not NROL). What I found out? I wasn't eating enough. I know weight loss is a goal, but make sure you are eating enough. There has to be enough food to keep your metabolism up (for the weight loss) and enough energy to do the workouts.
This probably isn't news to you. I just wondered what you had discovered if you had started tracking your cals..
moveon
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02-27-2008, 05:05 PM
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Location: Rural, Western Washington
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I didn't gain all that much strength doing fat loss, of course it is not designed with that in mind. So I wouldn't worry about it. After your finish FL 1, maybe you want to go to the strength workouts. Or do all three in you really need to lose weight, then go the the strength ones.
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02-27-2008, 07:14 PM
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Enjoying himself...
Join Date: Feb 2008
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All your body can do...
Rob,
You make a good point. There's only so much one's body can keep up with--strength gains, weight loss, the brain stuff that goes on as muscles and nervous system adapt.... At some point it's doing all it can handle and something will give. Focusing on the primary goal of the moment, like you suggested, is something good to need to keep in mind and guide good choices.
Like most folks who live in this microwave society, "I want it, and all of it, NOW."
Moveon
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