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Old 01-10-2008, 10:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So I am going to start NROL on Monday and I am a bit confused on how much weight to increase throughout the program. I would like to steadily incease weight so I was wondering if there was a good rule of thumb?

Currently I squat about 180 max so in order for me to do 2 or 3 sets of 15 reps I would probably work with about 100 to 110, a weight that would allow me to complete the reps but be challenging. It would be nice to have a formula like increase 5% every two weeks or something.
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Here's how I play it:

If I can complete all reps of all sets, it's time to increase weight. I usually go with 5-10lbs.

If I can't complete all reps of all sets, but I come close, I stay until I can complete it all.

If I can't complete all reps of all sets and I fall way short, I decrease weight, 5-10lbs.
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Old 01-11-2008, 05:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I try to pick weights that I can do the prescribed reps + 1. That is, on a 15 rep set, I can do 16 reps, but not 17. (Which is basically restating what Cynic said above, but in a different way.)
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and if the plates or db selections force you to jump weight in an increment that you cannot tolerate you have two choices:
1) use the new wt and drop the reps until you work back up to that wt/rep scheme
2) stay at the old wt and add reps until you think you can handle the next increment.

e.g you are doing something with 25# db - the next step up is 30# and you have no platemates or other way of getting something in between - and 30# is too heavy.

which is basically what cynic said in his lines 2 and 3 but with more words.

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All the above. It's really a case of knowing your own body.

Sometimes when I raise the weight and cannot complete the prescribed set/reps, I will drop it back down just to complete the set. I get a little extra work that way.

I'll continue with that arrangement until I can work up to completing all the reps in all the sets with the heavier weight.
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which is basically what cynic said in his lines 2 and 3 but with more words.
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2) stay at the old wt and add reps until you think you can handle the next increment.
You can do this by increasing the speed (tempo) of the reps.
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Thanks for all of your suggestions, I can't wait to get started with NROL. I'll go with the break-in for two or so weeks then move on to fat-loss.

One of my potential hurdles is I have a home gym, so I am not sure how to do some of the exercises such as Lat-Pulldowns. I'm going to have to substitute an exercise that targets that same muscles.
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One of my potential hurdles is I have a home gym, so I am not sure how to do some of the exercises such as Lat-Pulldowns. I'm going to have to substitute an exercise that targets that same muscles.
Are you talking about a multi-station stack gym or a rack/cage and bench?
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Thanks for all of your suggestions, I can't wait to get started with NROL. I'll go with the break-in for two or so weeks then move on to fat-loss.

One of my potential hurdles is I have a home gym, so I am not sure how to do some of the exercises such as Lat-Pulldowns. I'm going to have to substitute an exercise that targets that same muscles.
Pull-ups and Chin-ups would be a good substitute. Is there space for these in your home set-up?
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What type of setup do you have in your home gym? I'm sure we can find something you can pulldown from. I place my bar across the top set of pins in my rack and do chin ups that way (feet resting on the bench out in front of me).
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