What are the different target areas in the DB Incline press with plams facing in versus out?
Not much... If anything it would be basic neurological variation, if that's what you're going for.
Palms facing in = more externally rotated positioning of the shoulder & wrist = slightly less crossbridging & shortening of the pec fibers at the top of the movement. While this might seem like an inherent negative, the differences are very small.
What you can do is angle the DBs where you're most comfortable, which can be either position, or anywhere in between (ie, with the dumbells at a diagonal orientation).
Palms facing in = more externally rotated positioning of the shoulder & wrist = slightly less crossbridging & shortening of the pec fibers at the top of the movement. While this might seem like an inherent negative, the differences are very small. Furthermore, the increased mechanical advantage of the biceps with externally rotated wrists woul likely compensate for any differences in lifting strength anyway.
Alan, whenever I question your logic, it's always for a better understanding. However, I also know you and Alwyn have a history on bodybuilding.com.
Mechanical advantage of the bicep in a push movement? Did I read that right?
Also, I though with the palms in it would lend itself to internal rotation, not external.
Alan, whenever I question your logic, it's always for a better understanding. However, I also know you and Alwyn have a history on bodybuilding.com.
Mechanical advantage of the bicep in a push movement? Did I read that right?
Also, I though with the palms in it would lend itself to internal rotation, not external.
I was thinking of a flye movement more than a press in the case of palms-facing, because that's typically the movement that's done in that context (picture a DB flye). Perhaps I was too assumptive here, my bad. I was actually gonna edit that for clarity after I re-read & saw "PRESS", but I got derailed by the hypnotherapist down the hall from my office referring me a client
And I interpreted "palms in" as "facing eachother" = external rotation.
In the case of a press, I still don't see much difference.
Also, are we talking about achieving a palms-in position by adducting the shoulders and making the movement more of a sagital plane thing rather than a transverse? This would place more (relative) stress on the triceps & front delts than keeping the shoulders abducted from the torso.
In contrast, if we're talking strictly about varying wrist position in a DB press in a predominantly transverse plane - no real diff unless someone else wants to chime in with some insight.
Also, are we talking about achieving a palms-in position by adducting the shoulders and making the movement more of a sagital plane thing rather than a transverse? This would place more (relative) stress on the triceps & front delts than keeping the shoulders abducted from the torso.
Right, neither you nor I made the clear distinction.
I assume with palms in, the elbows get brought in, as shown in the book, but one could do palm in, elbows out just as easily.
So, to make it clear, I work off the idea, palms facing in, elbows in for an internal rotation added to the press. With the palms in a pronated grip, the elbows are out for an external rotation.
DB Incline Press - Palms Facing In
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