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Old 06-01-2007, 09:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Need help making it through HT1B.

As I have read others report, the lower body day of HT1 is a killer. And it is only getting worse for me as I increase the weight. So I think I need to do some conditioning work during the week to give me more gas. What is the most effective way for me to increase my conditioning in order to make it through HT1B?

I have read that alot of people like HIIT, but I do not need any fat loss so how could I incorporate this using a bike or jogging to gain conditioning?
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Old 06-01-2007, 11:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
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HIIT is good for conditioning as well as fat loss. Major suspicion: Are you eating enough? Maybe be drinking a carby protein sports drink before/during/after your work out. Better, get one of the standard nutrition books referenced on line on the forum.
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Good nutrition and good sleep quality will both make a big difference in the energy you have available. Also, just keep doing it. You get better by keeping up the pace. Just stay active in whatever way you find interesting, fun, and in line with your goals. More activity builds better conditioning.
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I agree with what Lisa and RobLL said. I noticed my energy lagging quite a bit when I hit the middle of my workouts during FL-2. I added a protein drink (whey protein mixed with oj and apricot juice) "during" that point in my workout. It helped me get past that low-energy hump.

I also occassionally incorporate a nice big cup of java on low energy days.
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HIIT is good for conditioning as well as fat loss. Major suspicion: Are you eating enough? Maybe be drinking a carby protein sports drink before/during/after your work out. Better, get one of the standard nutrition books referenced on line on the forum.
Speaking of HIIT. Can anyone recommend a good HIIT plan/article? I found these articles by doing a Google search...

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/wotw40.htm

http://www.musclemedia.com/training/hiit.asp

http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/justin6.htm

http://kescott45.wordpress.com/2006/...ing-explained/

Just wasn't sure if there were any better ones out there.
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Speaking of HIIT. Can anyone recommend a good HIIT plan/article? I found these articles by doing a Google search...
Screw all that. HIIT is not as complicated as one may think. It's about heartrate in discreet intervals of extreme effort.

I hear people talk highly of AC's Metablic Overdrive that he details in NROL. Is there any reason you don't want to do that?
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If nothing else, pick three cardio machines. Do HIIT on one machine each day, so it stay interesting and different.

Start at 5 intervals of 30 sec max effort, with 90secs of jog type effort. After three sessions, you've done it on each machine. Add 3 intervals and go through the cycle again. Repeat until you're up to 20 intervals.

If you can swing the cost, get a heartrate monitor. If you can't, do MO from NROL.
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Screw all that. HIIT is not as complicated as one may think. It's about heartrate in discreet intervals of extreme effort.

I hear people talk highly of AC's Metablic Overdrive that he details in NROL. Is there any reason you don't want to do that?
Oh ok. I just recently got the book and didn't realize that AC's MO was the same as the HIIT that was being discussed on here.
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HIIT - run, outdoors or on treadmill; walk, same, (full incline and fast walk is indeed intense); bicycle, real or indoors; swim; pushups; then just get creative and come up with your own.

Counting warm up and cool off its never more than thirty minutes, usually fifteen to twenty.
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Oh ok. I just recently got the book and didn't realize that AC's MO was the same as the HIIT that was being discussed on here.
It's not exactly the same, being more akin to spinning, but I don't expect him to outright lie when he says his clients typically see 1-2lbs loss/week. Such a lie would ruin his reputation if uncovered.
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Here is a simple guideline to HIIT in the purest of methods.

http://leighpeele.blogspot.com/2007/...e-to-hiit.html


Now read through the whole thing, interval training is not set in stone and you do not have to do textbook HIIT to achieve great results. If i remember correctly alywn works on a 2:1 ratio? I can't remember exactly but it sure gets the job done.
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Here is a simple guideline to HIIT in the purest of methods.

http://leighpeele.blogspot.com/2007/...e-to-hiit.html


Now read through the whole thing, interval training is not set in stone and you do not have to do textbook HIIT to achieve great results. If i remember correctly alywn works on a 2:1 ratio? I can't remember exactly but it sure gets the job done.
Cool thanks Leigh. I wasn't sure I could handle Alwyns Metabolic Overdrive which has you sprinting for 60 seconds at a time. Especially since I am just starting out.
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Here is a simple guideline to HIIT in the purest of methods.

http://leighpeele.blogspot.com/2007/...e-to-hiit.html


Now read through the whole thing, interval training is not set in stone and you do not have to do textbook HIIT to achieve great results. If i remember correctly alywn works on a 2:1 ratio? I can't remember exactly but it sure gets the job done.

Leigh, you really need to get a pic of yourself up on your site. You had one before, but you did look a bit of a ruffian. So you need to get a another up there (not the break dancing in the living room with the fuzzy blue slippers either).
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I wasn't sure I could handle Alwyns Metabolic Overdrive which has you sprinting for 60 seconds at a time. Especially since I am just starting out.
You might learn a lot from reading Craig Ballantyne's information on interval training. He suggests a progressions for beginners and discusses different modalities (sprinting, complexes, rower, etc.).

Craig Ballantyne's The Best Cardio Intervals for Fat Loss, Part I and The Best Cardio Intervals for Fat Loss, Part II

And here's Alwyn Cosgrove's Energy System Training for Fat Loss (very similar to what's in NROL).
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Leigh, you really need to get a pic of yourself up on your site. You had one before, but you did look a bit of a ruffian. So you need to get a another up there (not the break dancing in the living room with the fuzzy blue slippers either).
10 points for use of word ruffian.

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Good info. Lisa and Leigh. After reading the info. via your links, I will be incorporating this into my workouts. Thanks.
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