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The New Rules of Lifting - The Original Based on the original book by Lou Schuler with workout programs by Alwyn Cosgrove

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Old 05-03-2007, 03:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm not used to FL workouts or this high of rep range. Are we supposed to use our actual 15 rep max for these exercises? Typically when I try this I either end up with a weight that's too light for just 15 reps, or so heavy I can't complete the full 15. I have trouble guaging the proper amount of weight for any rep range over 8. For this style of workout are we supposed to use an amount which is a challenge for 15, but leaves a few reps in the hole? Or should we use a weight where it's a real struggle to get that last few?

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Your picture's freaking me out.

I had the same problem, but my goal was to be unable to get a 16th rep. Sometimes I would only get 10-12 reps at a certain weight, then I'd drop a little bit and do the remainder to reach 15.
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I'm not used to FL workouts or this high of rep range. Are we supposed to use our actual 15 rep max for these exercises? Typically when I try this I either end up with a weight that's too light for just 15 reps, or so heavy I can't complete the full 15. I have trouble guaging the proper amount of weight for any rep range over 8. For this style of workout are we supposed to use an amount which is a challenge for 15, but leaves a few reps in the hole? Or should we use a weight where it's a real struggle to get that last few?

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At the conference two speakers addressed, 'lift to failure'. Both said that as soon as you can't keep form, can't keep time, can't lift the weight, or any other sigh of 'can't that is time to stop. Not to lift 'where it's a real struggle'.
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Old 05-11-2007, 02:56 AM   #4 (permalink)
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The first set shouldn't kill you, but completing all sets should be a real challenge.

e.g 3 sets of 15. if you used 15rm, you may get 15 for the 1st set, but after the (short) rest, you prolly can't get more than 10. If you got 15,10,8, you got 33 total reps, and you need 45. You need to lower the weight if you're gonna get 45.

if you lowered the weight and got 15, 14, 13, you need only 3 more reps. you can keep working with the same weight until you get 45. (then add weight)


I usually have no idea what's the right weight when it's more than 5 reps/set. So if a program has more than a few exercises with high reps, I usually add one day (W0). The only objective on W0 is to figure out the right load for W1. (I tried using a %RM calculator, but it just didn't work)

suppose I have to do 3x15 for cable-row. I might end up with 6-7 sets on W0 if I struggle to get it right (if the weight feels too light, heavy, then I'll abort about half way through). but by the end of the day, I have a pretty good idea on what will be a challenging weight for 45 reps (total)

I don't know if it's the right thing to do. but before i started doing this, i usually started out too low for some, and too high for others.
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