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The New Rules of Lifting - The Original Based on the original book by Lou Schuler with workout programs by Alwyn Cosgrove

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Old 04-15-2007, 12:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Loosing weight, gain muscle, tip-over point.

I noticed, last time around, when I was doing Strength Training, that the first days (weeks), I was not loosing weight, as such, pretty stable in fact, but I was shrinking in my clothes, I didn't pursue it, at the time (I'm about to resume, with NROL Lifter #4).

My questions are:

1- Was it the same for you?
2- How long, did that initial, trading fat for muscle, lasted, before kicking in for constant weight lost?

Thanks in advance.

P.S.: I understand, that you don't trade fat for muscle as such, since fat & muscle are two differents type of tissue.
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Nobody?

So nobody can (want to) answer me?
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I have not made it that far into the program yet as I have only completed the Break-In, and I'm in my last week of FL1 now. I was seeing pretty good progress up until about 2 weeks ago where my weight has remained the same. I'm trying to figure out if I need to eat more, eat less, switch from Surge PWO to BCAA's only, or figure out a way to get more exercise in each week. I lost about 13-15 pounds all together. My clothes felt more loose, but have remained the same.
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:36 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Popeye,

I'm not really sure what you're looking for - is your goal just to lose fat?
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Old 04-18-2007, 02:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Default Yes fat lost.

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Popeye,

I'm not really sure what you're looking for - is your goal just to lose fat?
Yes, fat lost is my primary goal (I have 80 lb to 120 lb to loose). I'm 50 years old, therefore my second goal is to retrieve a better health (I'm not sick, what so ever, I do lot of outdoor cycling) and maintain it.

I want to get back into shape, retire early (55) and be around for a long long time.

P.S.: I own a Powertec WB-LS Leverage Gym + Ironmaster Quick-lock Dumbbells + Ironmaster Easy-Curl Bar + Swiss Ball. I also have an old bike, mounted on a stationary stand and an old (cheap) rower machine. I don't have all the equipment needed for NROL Lifter #4, so I will have to find replacement exercises, in the meantime. Later on, if I can lift my own weight (I sure can't right now), then I might buy a VKR stand or supplement my training in a real gym.

I guess, my real problem, is procastination, I have a hard time, starting and maintain a training program, NROL might do the trick, I like the year long equilibrate program. I have to stop reading about it, and do it, even if it is inadequate at first.
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Old 04-18-2007, 04:17 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm 44 years old and have lifted on and off since college, never for more than 6 months before falling off the wagon.

I've been on NROL since Oct 1 (BI, FL2,H1,H2 and just started FL3). Like you , I love the modular component that this program brings into play.

So far, I've lost around 25 lbs. Most of the initial loss came in the first 3 months. Most importantly, I've lost almost 6 inches around my waist and have kept it off. (From almost 42 inches to 36). I'm told I look much younger, and my energy has been fantastic.

There is no doubt that a key component to the success of the program is the DL and squat programs. Make sue you have the proper equipment to do those.
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:14 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Default Might buy a short Olympic bar.

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So far, I've lost around 25 lbs. Most of the initial loss came in the first 3 months. Most importantly, I've lost almost 6 inches around my waist and have kept it off. (From almost 42 inches to 36). I'm told I look much younger, and my energy has been fantastic.

There is no doubt that a key component to the success of the program is the DL and squat programs. Make sue you have the proper equipment to do those.
That is encouraging.

I only have the IronMaster Easy Curl as a bar. I can perhaps use that for my deadlift, but my wrist are not parallel to the bar (the wrist location, is kinked for proper curl motion). I'm not sure, if this could cause injury, if I use that bar for deadlift.

Perhaps I can do deadlift with Dumbbells only (mine can go, up to 75 lb each) or buy a small Olympic straight bar.

For Squat, I will use my Powertec WB-LS, I can squat safely on that gym. The only thing, this being a gym, the squat is done in a controlled path of motion (a bit like, on a smith machine, but less constraining), I can alternate between Squat on my WB-LS and Squat using Dumbbells, that should do it.

What do you think.
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