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Old 11-17-2006, 01:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Are you releasing the weight, standing up completely and resting for a few seconds in between each rep as advised usually when deadlifting?
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Old 11-17-2006, 02:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I generally pause at the bottom position with the weight resting on the floor, reset and lift.
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Old 11-17-2006, 02:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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No. I don't. I do set the weight back down, though. If my back were getting sore, I would stand up and rest.
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Old 11-17-2006, 06:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I set the bar down, wait for a second and pull again. Only reason I'll let go of the bar is to get a better grip (using hook grip on these high rep sets)
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Old 11-18-2006, 05:00 AM   #5 (permalink)
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set weight down, release grip, then up again
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Old 11-19-2006, 09:24 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I do these in fairly quick succession, just making sure that the bar completely rests on the floor at full stop, before the next rep. Remember, it is a set of 15 reps and not 15 sets of 1 rep.
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Old 11-19-2006, 10:25 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I have only been doing these for a few weeks, but I do like Mahler and try to keep it going. One reason is that I want to keep it as cardio pumping as I can, while keeping that back straight and focusing on pushing up through the middle of my feet.
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Old 11-19-2006, 01:27 PM   #8 (permalink)
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either way is acceptable i believe.

You don't need reversal strength when it comes to the deadlift because there is no eccentric part to the exercise. "Dead" lift means lifting dead weight off the ground. Just make sure you're not resting to long when you stand up between reps.
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Are you releasing the weight, standing up completely and resting for a few seconds in between each rep as advised usually when deadlifting?
I've never seen this advised when deadlifting. Can you tell us what sources advise this?

If you're having problems getting through a 15-rep set of deads, then I think it would be a good idea to lower the weight. You can rest the barbell on boxes or aerobic steps if small weights like 10 or 25 pound plates put the bar too close to the floor.
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I've never seen this advised when deadlifting. Can you tell us what sources advise this?

If you're having problems getting through a 15-rep set of deads, then I think it would be a good idea to lower the weight. You can rest the barbell on boxes or aerobic steps if small weights like 10 or 25 pound plates put the bar too close to the floor.
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I am with you on this. I would like to know where this method of deadlifting was suggested.
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I've seen that recommended too. But, generally as a tip for those that tend to bounce the bar off the floor. Or, for those who have trouble keeping good form.
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:18 AM   #12 (permalink)
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This link was taken from the MensHealth training forum. In the sticky entitled "Essential Reading" there is a link that reads "The Dead Zone: The Top 10 Deadlifting Mistakes and How to Fix Them"

Here is the link to the article: http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do...ydra?id=459744




The part about multiple reps taken directly from the article:

Mistake #7: Training with multiple reps

Next time you see someone doing multiple reps on the deadlift, take note of the form of each rep. You'll see the later reps look nothing like the first. In competition you only have to pull once, so you need to learn how to develop what's known as starting strength for the deadlift. This is the strength needed to get the bar off the floor without an eccentric (negative) action before the start.

In other words, you don't lower the bar first and then lift the weight as you do with the squat and bench press. When you train with multiple reps you're beginning to develop reversal strength, which isn't needed with the deadlift.

These two reasons are enough to keep the deadlift training to singles. If you're using multiple reps with the deadlift, then stand up in between each rep and restart the lift. This way you'll be teaching the proper form and be developing the right kind of strength

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This link was taken from the MensHealth training forum. In the sticky entitled "Essential Reading" there is a link that reads "The Dead Zone: The Top 10 Deadlifting Mistakes and How to Fix Them"

Here is the link to the article: http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do...ydra?id=459744




The part about multiple reps taken directly from the article:

Mistake #7: Training with multiple reps

Next time you see someone doing multiple reps on the deadlift, take note of the form of each rep. You'll see the later reps look nothing like the first. In competition you only have to pull once, so you need to learn how to develop what's known as starting strength for the deadlift. This is the strength needed to get the bar off the floor without an eccentric (negative) action before the start.

In other words, you don't lower the bar first and then lift the weight as you do with the squat and bench press. When you train with multiple reps you're beginning to develop reversal strength, which isn't needed with the deadlift.

These two reasons are enough to keep the deadlift training to singles. If you're using multiple reps with the deadlift, then stand up in between each rep and restart the lift. This way you'll be teaching the proper form and be developing the right kind of strength
Wouldn't that only be applicable though if you were planning on competing?
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