| The New Rules of Lifting - The Original Based on the original book by Lou Schuler with workout programs by Alwyn Cosgrove |
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11-10-2006, 09:21 PM
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Newbie
Hello, all. I'm a newbie to the NROL. I just purchased the book today after hearing about it in the gym. Who knew there was a discussion board for it? You gotta love Google!
Anyway, here's the lowdown: 30 yr old ex-college football player, working full-time, grad school 2-3 nights/week and a 5-week old baby boy (my first). Let's just say I'm sorta busy! I have tried and failed to find a training system that will allow decent results without the 2 hr/day commitment. The info in the book is very straight forward and easy to follow. I have several questions for all of you who have been on the program but I'll ask these two to start: Can I expect good results only doing the metabolic overdrive cardio w.o. and, is it possible to lose fat while eating the calories the authors suggest (they seem high)? - Thanks.
Stats: 5'10", 230 @ 24%
Goal: 195-205 @ 10%
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11-10-2006, 09:30 PM
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Well, the MO workout is supposed to be in addition to the weights, not a replacement.
If you eat the right foods, at the right times, you'll see weight reduction, but it'll likely be a bit of LBM as well as fat.
Read these:
http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/...on/7habits.htm
http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/...aneating_1.htm
http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/...aneating_2.htm
and here is the main archive:
http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/index.htm
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11-10-2006, 09:37 PM
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I understand that the M.O. follows the weights. I guess I should've clarified. My question should've been: Should I forego cardio on the other days? ( You know, the whole 45 min. 4-6 days/week to lose fat advice)
Thanks for the links.
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11-11-2006, 03:36 AM
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Yeah, forget that extra cardio. If you're doing the fat loss programs, that should be enough. Alwyn's programs can be...a little intense..
Good Luck,
Rodrigo
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11-11-2006, 06:32 AM
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J, also keep in mind that your life right now is majorly stressful. You're burning the candle at both ends with a job and grad school, and, speaking as the father of three former babies, I remember vividly how they like to sleep during the day and test their lung power at night.
You have to make stress management a major goal. Short and intense workouts are good, but even those can push you over the edge.
So my advice is to manage your recovery carefully, and if you feel worn out, or that you might be coming down with a cold or something, don't be afraid to push your workout back a day. It's better to make slow progress than to stop it altogether by getting sick.
Good luck!
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11-11-2006, 11:58 AM
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Wow, the man himself! Thanks for the advice Lou.
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11-11-2006, 01:16 PM
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Any comments on my second question?
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11-11-2006, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Fat J
is it possible to lose fat while eating the calories the authors suggest (they seem high)? - Thanks.
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I would start off with the calories they give in the book. If it works and you star losing fat/weight, great, keep it like that. If after a couple weeks you aren't getting leaner, try subtracting 250 cals a day. Everyone's metabolism is different. You may need more or less calories than the book recomends.
Also, it isn't just about calories. Make sure you're almost only eating the foods the authors designate as "clean." Which foods you eat is just as important as how much food you eat.
Hope this helps.
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11-11-2006, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Fat J
Wow, the man himself! Thanks for the advice Lou.
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Yeah, he haunts this board now and then. Wait, Alwyn will show up eventually.
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