I am noticing now that my knees are starting to hurt a little. Right on top of the kneecap....its very light, but I am worried it could get worse. Now I am trying to figure out whats causing it...squats? Running? Spinning?
I gotta get that video set up so you guys can see my squat form.......I will try this weekend.
I bought the knees sleeves and use them every workout. They really do make a difference.
Thankyou! I skimmed through it,that was excellent. I will buy some knee sleeves, where can i get them?
I also will buy some glucosamine too. Do they really work?
I already get omegas from fish and flax, but I have to continue the fish oil pills. I think I will go to yoga today, I was going to skip, but after reading that article, I realized flexibility is very important.
I bought my sleeves at Sports Authority. And get the sleeves. Not only do they support but they keep the knees warm and loose.
I take glucoasmine (The GNC Triflex brand) and it has helped my knees. But it takes a few months to feel the effect. Same as the fish oil. You won't feel anything overnight but in a few months you should.
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If I remember right from the article, the supports help to keep the kneecap in place better. I'll see if I can find that article again, but I'm having difficulty remembering exactly when and where I saw it (sometime in the last couple weeks).
I am noticing now that my knees are starting to hurt a little. Right on top of the kneecap....its very light, but I am worried it could get worse. Now I am trying to figure out whats causing it...squats? Running? Spinning?
I'm sure the sleeves would be helpful. But, from my own personal experience, it may be that you are just putting too much stress on the knees. Running, cycling, squatting, etc. I know that after reducing my running to HIIT maybe once a week at the most, my knees feel better. (I'm doing plenty of squatting and lunging with Fat Loss II). After I go for a long bike ride, my knees are more sore than after a weight workout. Nobody wants to hear it (I didn't), but you might want to consider whether you are trying to do too much.
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I gotta get that video set up so you guys can see my squat form.......I will try this weekend.
If you are only getting as low as parallel or higher, that will put more stress on your knees. I wanted to give up squatting when I first started because I thought it was bad for my knees. It was my form that was bad.
Best of luck,
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If I remember right from the article, the supports help to keep the kneecap in place better. I'll see if I can find that article again, but I'm having difficulty remembering exactly when and where I saw it (sometime in the last couple weeks).
I don't have a problem with the kneecap floating around, but when I do leg work I get sore around the knee (muscle soreness). The sleeves have eliminated that.
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My knees felt better once I stopped going past parallel on my squats. I was going as deep as I could, thinking this Iwas getting maximum benefit out of the lift for my muscles. But actually, I was causing much more stress on my knees than I was getting benefit to my muscles; not to mention risking serious injury.
I don't have a problem with the kneecap floating around, but when I do leg work I get sore around the knee (muscle soreness). The sleeves have eliminated that.
Not me, I don't think.
If I've been doing my workouts without my supports, it hurts behind the knee caps. This started to become noticable when I started doing bulgarians with regularity. Then it started to become a bit debilitating. If I wear them, I'm good. If I don't, 2-3 workouts, I'm in pain when trying to kneel.
My knees felt better once I stopped going past parallel on my squats. I was going as deep as I could, thinking this Iwas getting maximum benefit out of the lift for my muscles. But actually, I was causing much more stress on my knees than I was getting benefit to my muscles; not to mention risking serious injury.
I was basically told the opposite.
In Eric Cressey's Debunking Exercise Myths, he states: "...there was no support for the idea that squatting below parallel increases stress on the patellofemoral joint."
Of course, he also says "If one doesn't have the flexibility to get below parallel safely, then the rock-bottom squat shouldn't be part of his arsenal; this athlete's attention would be better devoted elsewhere and possibly supplemented with squats at or above parallel."
So the lesson may be "to each his own"!
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My knees felt better once I stopped going past parallel on my squats. I was going as deep as I could, thinking this Iwas getting maximum benefit out of the lift for my muscles. But actually, I was causing much more stress on my knees than I was getting benefit to my muscles; not to mention risking serious injury.
Yes, that is probably what Im doing...going past parallel. I am sure that is what I am doing when i squat.
These are the Rehband knee sleeves that Mike Robertson recommends. Lots of guys I trust say these are the ones to own. I don't own a pair, but they are on my own wish list.
These are the Rehband knee sleeves that Mike Robertson recommends. Lots of guys I trust say these are the ones to own. I don't own a pair, but they are on my own wish list.
Buy the best equipment you can based upon your needs.
"Cheap" equipment (and I don't mean (necessarily) pricewise) is no bargain.
An injury which may have been prevented by the use of better equipment (iron gear or safety equipment) is much more expensive than an ounce of prevention which only hurts for the moment when you pay for it.
I've had that pain before and it always came from doing too much exercise too soon. Cut back on some of the biking, use ice and some ibuprofin a couple of time per day.
I've been using sleeves too and love 'em. Actually they have straps and so give a bit more support than just the Rehband neoprene ones. Then I again I do have bonafide knee problems so probably need more support than others.
I don't understand how just neoprene gives "support to joints" as advertised in that Rehband ad. I sure don't feel any more support when wearing my neoprene wetsuit but in any case, keeping your joints warm is good.
As Bill said definitely ice after training. I soon feel it if I forget.
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Dan John had an awesome Video Fitcast where he taught trainers how to train their folks on squating/deadlifting etc. You may want to check it out to see if you could improve your form.
Then, I suggest reviewing how much you are doing with them. Lastly, I would buy the knee sleeves.
Buy the best equipment you can based upon your needs.
"Cheap" equipment (and I don't mean (necessarily) pricewise) is no bargain.
An injury which may have been prevented by the use of better equipment (iron gear or safety equipment) is much more expensive than an ounce of prevention which only hurts for the moment when you pay for it.
I'm not a big fan of FUD tactics nor the people who use them. Took your lessons from Microsoft? It's a pretty poor way to sell.
Not sure I know what you're talking about, Cynic. I haven't got anything to "sell". (But I do have experience over the past thirty plus years with training and sports related injuries from the gym to those incurred rock climbing and mountaineering amongst other arenas.)
I also have garnered some experience with good and bad equipment over the 54 years I've been on this earth and I'm here to tell you that trying to save a little at the expense of better equipment (whether it's safety equipment/clothing or actual weight training equipment) can make a big difference in your path to success and/or health. (I'm sure there are enough trainers, orthopedists and chiropractors that can attest to that.)
And having spent my entire adult life in federal law enforcement, I can tell you that I wasn't about to invest in the economy model ballistic vest nor a "saturday night special" as my firearm of choice. (I'm not presenting an argument that "pricier is better" but rather on "knowing" what you are getting for your money and knowing what your "needs" are.)
Thanks for taking the time to keep an open mind before jumping to conclusions about someone's intent and perspective.
Thanks for taking the time to keep an open mind before jumping to conclusions about someone's intent and perspective.
I look at everything and everyone I don't know with a sideways glance. You didn't provide a side-by-side comparison of different brands, only to say the more expensive is better.
I also believe you get what you pay for, but if you don't know what your buying, spending on just hearsay is foolish.
By that same reasoning, anything less than a Mercedes is a safety risk, anyone using less than Troy plates is not going to gains as much and anyone using anything less than an IBM risks losing data.
I don't know you about you, but I don't have money to burn. Something has to be proven better to rationalize it's higher price before I spend on it.
You didn't provide a side-by-side comparison of different brands, only to say the more expensive is better.
Actually, I didn't say that. You might want to re-read what I said.
In any case, no sense belaboring the point here. You can reach me via email or pm if anything else I said is confusing.
As an aside, if you want to know about cynicism, try interrogating criminals (money launderers, narco-traffickers, arms smugglers etc.) for 25 years or so. Gives you a whole new appreciation of the "truth".
Do you perform any mobility or flexibility work? Lots of knee problems come from tight hip flexors, IT bands and other thigh or lower leg muscles.
I have knee problems and after many scans there is nothing wrong with them however once they get sore then it hurts to even walk for days later.
Stretch religiously. Any site can show you stretches to do for lower body or you can buy magnificent mobility and they take a dynamic approach to stretches.
My personal thoughts are that knee braces/ straps are the same as lifting belts. Once you start using them then your body needs and you are stuck using them long term.
Do you perform any mobility or flexibility work? Lots of knee problems come from tight hip flexors, IT bands and other thigh or lower leg muscles.
I have knee problems and after many scans there is nothing wrong with them however once they get sore then it hurts to even walk for days later.
Stretch religiously. Any site can show you stretches to do for lower body or you can buy magnificent mobility and they take a dynamic approach to stretches.
My personal thoughts are that knee braces/ straps are the same as lifting belts. Once you start using them then your body needs and you are stuck using them long term.
Just some thoughts.
I would second this ... most knee pain that is not from a structural problem (ie a torn meniscus or ligament) is best addressed from either above (hips, back) or below (ankles, feet). Yes, maybe it is a tendonitis, but WHY did it occur? Address the dysfunctions above and below and the symptom will go away. I just got Magnificent Mobility ... and it is AWESOME!!! I will be incorporating a lot of it in with my clients as well as my own workouts. (got it as a package with Inside Out which I highly recommend as well ... great great works!!)
I also agree that using the knee sleeves could become a crutch ... sort of like putting a bandaid on a severed artery (well, not that extreme!) ... train the muscles properly and you won't need them ... just my opinion ...
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