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Old 09-12-2006, 04:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default simple question re: FL I program organization

I am three weeks into FL I and just wanted to make sure I have this right.

I am doing 3 w/os a week for 6 weeks, making 18 w/os total.

The description of FL I, though, talks about TWO w/os per week for 6 weeks, and charts out a program with 12 total w/os. (6 A and 6 B.)

My assumption is that my rep progression should simply go by two-week blocks, that is, 15 reps for the first two weeks, 12 reps second two weeks, 10 reps last two weeks. (As opposed to w/os 1&2, 3&4, 5&6 as shown in the FL I chart.)

This is right, right?
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Old 09-12-2006, 04:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Top of p. 214 says, "Do each of the two workouts six times." So if you are going to lift three times a week, it will take you only four weeks to complete the program.
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OK, I think I see your confusion about the reps now.

It would work like this:

Mon: Workout A, 15 reps
Wed: Workout B, 15 reps
Fri: Workout A, 15 reps
Mon: Workout B, 15 reps
Wed: Workout A, 12 reps
Fri: Workout B, 12 reps
Mon: Workout A, 12 reps
Wed: Workout B, 12 reps
Fri: Workout A, 10 reps
Mon: Workout B, 10 reps
Wed: Workout A, 10 reps
Fri: Workout B, 10 reps

So each rep scheme is done twice for each workout (A & B).
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Top of p. 214 says, "Do each of the two workouts six times." So if you are going to lift three times a week, it will take you only four weeks to complete the program.
And at the top of 193, it says 3x/wk for six weeks.
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And at the top of 193, it says 3x/wk for six weeks.
So it does!

That recommendation is for the "Eternal Beginner," so I guess if you are following that protocol then you'd continue on with FL I for longer. Three times for each rep scheme like JackT said in his first post, so changing rep schemes every two weeks.

NROL is set up to leave a whole lot of room for individualization. So whichever way seems to be the best suited to the individual would work.
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So it does!

That recommendation is for the "Eternal Beginner," so I guess if you are following that protocol then you'd continue on with FL I for longer. Three times for each rep scheme like JackT said in his first post, so changing rep schemes every two weeks.
I decided to err on the side the gives me more work.

I'm in need and can't afford to slack.

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OK, I think I see your confusion about the reps now.

It would work like this:

Mon: Workout A, 15 reps
Wed: Workout B, 15 reps
Fri: Workout A, 15 reps
Mon: Workout B, 15 reps
Wed: Workout A, 12 reps
Fri: Workout B, 12 reps
Mon: Workout A, 12 reps
Wed: Workout B, 12 reps
Fri: Workout A, 10 reps
Mon: Workout B, 10 reps
Wed: Workout A, 10 reps
Fri: Workout B, 10 reps

So each rep scheme is done twice for each workout (A & B).
I would assume this is exactly how Fat Loss II is also for Lifter #4 ???
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When in doubt, I look at the workout tables/logs in the book and go by that to determine the recommended number of times to perform each workout. It will tell you unambiguously what the authors' intent is for how many times to do each workout.
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Jack, in the end of all this, I'm with you. It's in two week blocks, three workouts each, making it three workouts at 3x15, three at 3x12 and three at 3x10.

That's how I read it and how I laid it out for myself.

I plan to do FLII like that as well.
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I'm going the route Lisa outlined - 6 workouts each for A and B. The first two weeks, I only did each workout once. This week I started a routine of three workouts a week - A, B , A etc. I could probably benefit from the extra workouts as Cynic is doing, but I can see myself burning out early. I like 'change'! If you've done the 6 workouts each and decide after 8 that you are ready for a change and move on to FLII - why not (after your rest week, of course)?

Just my $.02...
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Take it from me, it's 12 workouts total. I prepared my personal logs for the entire strength program and Alwyn has checked my training log a few times as well.
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Take it from me, it's 12 workouts total. I prepared my personal logs for the entire strength program and Alwyn has checked my training log a few times as well.
So when the book tells me to do FL-I, 3 workouts a week for 6 weeks, that's another misprint? How many misprints are there?
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JackT, you can choose two paths, IMO. Nine A and nine B workouts or six A and six B. IMO, it's a matter of how you wish to attack it.

Do you have the motivation to do nine A and Bs? No, then do six.
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