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Old 05-28-2006, 01:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm used with the conventional bodybuilding routines that bulks up my muscles easily. 8-12 reps mostly. At anytime that I want to bulk up, results in just 2 weeks @ 4x /wk,1 hr /session.

I finished NROL, Break-in program & Hypertrophy 1 (2 weeks). Don't get me wrong, these programs are both challenging since day1 and I'm lovin' it.

If I continue with NROL hypertrophy program, will I achieve the "look" I get from the conventional bodybuilding routines?
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Old 05-29-2006, 08:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You mean you've had the look and lost it? Or you still have the look and want to improve on it?

If it's the latter, and you don't feel and see a difference from the NROL programs you've used so far, I'd recommend moving up to the Strength programs. For guys who've used traditional bodybuilding programs, doing low-rep strength work is the undiscovered country.
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Old 05-30-2006, 09:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi,Lou! You're right, I'm somewhat the latter.

But help me out again. I'm somewhat Lifter #4 (Serious about lifting) but over-"FAT" around my waist. Instead of choosing Lifter #4, I chose Lifter #2 I want to be "bigger". I know you can go both directions at the same time (fat loss & muscle gain).

Butnow, motivated to wear low rise jeans, I changed my program Lifter #4.

a) Is it ok to shift to Fat Loss II when I have done 2 weeks of Hypertrophy I? Then continue to Lifter #4 program?

b) I did FLI this morning, and i find the front squat variation difficult to do. Instead, I crossed my arms and still placed the bars across my shoulders. Is this ok?


c)In lifter #4, FatLossI says 3x a week. But reading the FatLossI description- you can do 2,3 or even 4 workouts a week. The only rule:never train more than 2 days in a row. So, can I still do 4x a week or just stick to 3x a week as the program for Lifter #4 recommends?
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Old 05-31-2006, 07:15 AM   #4 (permalink)
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For experienced lifters, the program is set up to be modular and instinctive. There's no one "right" way to do it, no matter how closely you fit any particular profile. And the profiles I made up aren't meant to be definitive -- they're just examples of how the programs could be done, not how they should be done.

In general, Fat Loss I and II are beginner-level programs, and are meant to follow directly from the Break-In Program. Hypertrophy I and II are advanced beginner/intermediate-level programs. The Strength programs are meant for more advanced lifters. Fat Loss III and Hypertrophy III sort of straddle the zone between intermediate and advanced.

How you arrange them is really up to you. The only "rule" I'd suggest is to avoid jumping around from beginner to advanced to intermediate programs. I'd try to do them in a linear way, from beginner to intermediate to advanced.

So I wouldn't go from Hypertrophy I to Fat Loss III. But it's fine to go straight from Fat Loss II to Hypertrophy II, if you want, or from Hypertrophy II to Strength I. Even though you're jumping tracks, you're landing on tracks that are heading the same direction.

It's fine to modify your form on the front squat, and it's fine to do four workouts a week instead of three, if that what your instincts tell you to do.

The key is to make the book work for you, and there's no single way to do that.
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In general, Fat Loss I and II are beginner-level programs, and are meant to follow directly from the Break-In Program. Hypertrophy I and II are advanced beginner/intermediate-level programs. The Strength programs are meant for more advanced lifters. Fat Loss III and Hypertrophy III sort of straddle the zone between intermediate and advanced.

It's fine to modify your form on the front squat, and it's fine to do four workouts a week instead of three, if that what your instincts tell you to do.
This morning, while taking a bath, I'm still thinking why FL1 A wasn't as hard as H1. Now, I know.

I guess, have to continue with Week 3 of H1. Lou, do you think my workout yesterday (FL1 A), will affect my Hypertrophy program?
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Lou, do you think my workout yesterday (FL1 A), will affect my Hypertrophy program?
Yes. It will also give you an incurable disease, and make you write-in the names of Communist Party candidates the next time you vote. Your breath will turn rancid and your eyes will be yellow more often than not. Please see a doctor if your image suddenly stops appearing in mirrors.

Sorry, I'm a little off my game this morning.

Real answer: No, one workout shouldn't have much effect on anything. It's what you do chronically, consistently, and systematically that matters.
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Yes. It will also give you an incurable disease, and make you write-in the names of Communist Party candidates the next time you vote. Your breath will turn rancid and your eyes will be yellow more often than not. Please see a doctor if your image suddenly stops appearing in mirrors.

Sorry, I'm a little off my game this morning.

Real answer: No, one workout shouldn't have much effect on anything. It's what you do chronically, consistently, and systematically that matters.
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