JP Fitness Forums powered by fitness insite  
Google
 
Web forums.jpfitness.com

Go Back   JP Fitness Forums > The New Rules of Lifting > The New Rules of Lifting - The Original
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

The New Rules of Lifting - The Original Based on the original book by Lou Schuler with workout programs by Alwyn Cosgrove

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-03-2006, 10:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 99
Default 'Wave' sets explained

As you can tell from my moniker, I'm new to all of this. Bought the book yesterday at lunch, read it yesterday afternoon, had my first Break-In workout last night. Wow, does my butt hurt. Those lunges are killers.

Anyway, I was reading through all of the different programs and came to a a couple of workouts I didn't clearly understand how to perform. From reading other posts on this site, I realize I was already doing supersets wrong and want to make sure I'm clear on these other exercises before performing them.

The workouts in question involve, what the book calls 'wave' sets. I know this is 101 stuff, but would somebody please paint this confused old fart a picture of how to perform wave sets properly; including whether or not to increase/decrease weight between reps, rest periods, etc.

Thanks.
Newbie is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2006, 01:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
Prime Motivator
 
Mahler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Stewartstown, PA
Posts: 11,327
Default

Wave sets are just another way to trick the body into performing at its peak. I was doing these wrong, too, by the way until Alwyn corrected me.

The wave loading I am using is the Strength I program, but the idea is pretty much the same wherever it is used.

The wave loading might call for a 6,1,6,1 rep scheme.

1st set: load a weight you can lift for 6 reps.
2nd set: up the weight significantly
3rd set: load more weight than the 1st set but, of course less than the 2nd set. Your body remembers how heavy the 2nd set was and this will help you lift more than the 1st set.
4th set: load more than the second set.

For example, my deadlift series this morning was as follows:

Set 1: 6 x 295
Set 2: 1 x 325
Set 3: 6 x 315
Set 4: 1 x 355

These are often followed by "back off" sets. In my case a lighter set of 12 reps, followed by an even lighter set of 20 reps.
__________________
In Fitness & Friendship,
MAHLER

______________________________ __________________________
There is no light at the end of the tunnel. You carry the light with you.

Member of the Million Pound Club - Deadlift 4,450 x 225
My blog: http://www.iammahler.blogspot.com/

Last edited by Mahler : 05-03-2006 at 06:31 PM.
Mahler is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2006, 01:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 99
Default

Wow. That's quite a 'set'. And I'm supposed to do all of that 5 times, waiting 3 minutes between each wave set, right?
Newbie is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2006, 02:05 PM   #4 (permalink)
Closet Introvert
 
Jimbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Little Rock, AR
Posts: 2,832
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mahler
For example, my deadlift series this morning was as follows:

Set 1: 6 x 295
Set 2: 1 x 325
Set 3: 6 x 315
Set 4: 1 x 255
Mahler - (I'm butting in)

Per the protocol you described...wasn't your 4th set supposed to be heavier than the 2nd set?

(Awesome numbers there by the way. I have DL envy)
__________________
"Citius, Altius, Fortius"

My Training Log

Jimbo is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2006, 02:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
Chick Magnet
 
DKing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 2,590
Default

He meant to type 355 if you look at his log entry.

Newbie - No you don't go through that whole wave 5 times, each set at a specific weight is a set.

Danny
__________________
Limitations are for people who have them.

Chicks Dig Me.

Training Log
DKing is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 05-03-2006, 02:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
Closet Introvert
 
Jimbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Little Rock, AR
Posts: 2,832
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DKing
He meant to type 355 if you look at his log entry.

Newbie - No you don't go through that whole wave 5 times, each set at a specific weight is a set.

Danny
Dang. 355...now my envy is turned to weeping.

I bow in his general direction.
__________________
"Citius, Altius, Fortius"

My Training Log

Jimbo is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2006, 02:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 99
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DKing
Newbie - No you don't go through that whole wave 5 times, each set at a specific weight is a set.

Danny
Ah. Thanks. I think I've got it now. One more question. I'm supposed to rest for 3 minutes between each set or just after the wave is completed?
Newbie is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2006, 03:37 PM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
JoshDunn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Townsville, Australia
Posts: 1,685
Default

Between each set.
JoshDunn is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2006, 06:33 PM   #9 (permalink)
Prime Motivator
 
Mahler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Stewartstown, PA
Posts: 11,327
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo
Mahler - (I'm butting in)

Per the protocol you described...wasn't your 4th set supposed to be heavier than the 2nd set?

(Awesome numbers there by the way. I have DL envy)
Jimbo,
Thanks for catching that. It was supposed to be 355. LOL
You will notice that I corrected it.
__________________
In Fitness & Friendship,
MAHLER

______________________________ __________________________
There is no light at the end of the tunnel. You carry the light with you.

Member of the Million Pound Club - Deadlift 4,450 x 225
My blog: http://www.iammahler.blogspot.com/
Mahler is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2006, 06:36 PM   #10 (permalink)
Prime Motivator
 
Mahler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Stewartstown, PA
Posts: 11,327
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DKing
He meant to type 355 if you look at his log entry.

Newbie - No you don't go through that whole wave 5 times, each set at a specific weight is a set.

Danny
Danny,
Thanks for the clarification. I changed the post to read 355. And, thanks for the additional explanation.
__________________
In Fitness & Friendship,
MAHLER

______________________________ __________________________
There is no light at the end of the tunnel. You carry the light with you.

Member of the Million Pound Club - Deadlift 4,450 x 225
My blog: http://www.iammahler.blogspot.com/
Mahler is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2006, 08:08 AM   #11 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 99
Default

Thanks for all of the replies. I think I'm clear on what to do now.

Even though I can't get out of a chair without sounding like my 83 year old father, I'm really excited about this book and getting past the Break-In period.

Thanks again for all of your help.
Newbie is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:30 PM.

Features ...
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Ad Management by RedTyger