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Old 04-20-2006, 11:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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im now very knowledge on weight training but when it comes to diet theres so much to choose from , im looking to build lean muscle while staying healthy with real world results , not sure if i would compete , but as far as books go which one would you recomend , i read new rules of lifting but the nutrition section seemed like it needed more , i am also in the process of reading alwyn cosgroves program design manuel , but there is no nurtion advice. as far as book go this one really causght my eye

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/097...lance&n=283155

i read get buff by ian king but really no nurtion advice , i also read macrobolic nutrition by genard dente but it seemed like he was just trying to permote his company mhp. i want to be fit and live long and healthy. here are some pictures of the body type im looking for. i know these guys dieted down for the photo shoot but what they look like normally would be nice.

http://www.muscletech.com/PROFILES/J...per4_1024.html

http://www.muscletech.com/PROFILES/J...per1_1024.html

http://www.muscletech.com/PROFILES/C...per1_1024.html

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Old 04-21-2006, 01:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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For the nutrition advice. All the information out there is the SAME. Until you have been applying the basic principals and have been losing weight or gaining weight at will, then there is no real point reading everything there is out there.

Just apply the info in NROL and then down the road look into some advanced theories.

The nutrition section in the book is first rate so just use that.
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Old 04-21-2006, 01:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I really like this one: The Paleo Diet for Athletes

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It's full on good info.

But, it's pretty far from what a normal "family style" diet would be, since it advises against grains, beans, etc. except around the workout period.

In the same vein, is the info over at johnberardi.com. Tons of great stuff over there.

The Testosterone Advantage Plan (or TAP) has a good nutrition section. It's basically nutrition, with a good workout in there, as well. A modified Mediterranean diet.

I'd also recommend some diet/nutrition books that aren't specifically fitness related, but solid, nonetheless. Again, modified Mediterranean style diets... South Beach and the Sonoma Diet both seem pretty good. They have a moderate amount of healthy grains and starchy carbs, making them more "normal."
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I apologize for not keeping up on this part of my business. Nobody sends me books for review anymore, and I pick and choose carefully when it comes to purchases.

So I haven't read Eating for Life. I assume it's solid, but don't really know.

South Beach Diet is okay, and Sonoma Diet probably is, too, although I'll caution you not to try to follow the meal plans. They're way too low in calories, especially the one in the Sonoma Diet. (I think it starts with 1,400 calories a day for men, which is nonsensical.)

One book I really like is SuperFoods Rx. I've read the book carefully and borrow from it extensively in New Rules, and even got to interview the author once for an article that never ran in the magazine that assigned it.

Two others I like are Rehan Jalali's Six Pack Diet and Nutrient Timing.

I don't know that there's any book that gives you a definitive plan that will work for the rest of your life -- TAP's principles are still solid, but the actual meal plans are only good for a few weeks before you get tired of eating the same things over and over. But these are the ones I've used to increase my knowledge and give me some insight into the ways different types of food affect our bodies and performance.
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I don't know that there's any book that gives you a definitive plan that will work for the rest of your life -- TAP's principles are still solid, but the actual meal plans are only good for a few weeks before you get tired of eating the same things over and over. But these are the ones I've used to increase my knowledge and give me some insight into the ways different types of food affect our bodies and performance.
That's a good point. I forget the part about meal plans and menus. As a long time cook, I never use them, just the actual nutritional info.

I read tons of cookbooks, too. So, once I'm onto a nutritional plan, I just start modifying recipes to fit that plan.
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I apologize for not keeping up on this part of my business. Nobody sends me books for review anymore, and I pick and choose carefully when it comes to purchases.

So I haven't read Eating for Life. I assume it's solid, but don't really know.

South Beach Diet is okay, and Sonoma Diet probably is, too, although I'll caution you not to try to follow the meal plans. They're way too low in calories, especially the one in the Sonoma Diet. (I think it starts with 1,400 calories a day for men, which is nonsensical.)

One book I really like is SuperFoods Rx. I've read the book carefully and borrow from it extensively in New Rules, and even got to interview the author once for an article that never ran in the magazine that assigned it.

Two others I like are Rehan Jalali's Six Pack Diet and Nutrient Timing.

I don't know that there's any book that gives you a definitive plan that will work for the rest of your life -- TAP's principles are still solid, but the actual meal plans are only good for a few weeks before you get tired of eating the same things over and over. But these are the ones I've used to increase my knowledge and give me some insight into the ways different types of food affect our bodies and performance.
so lou if you had to pick a book of nutrition with values ( how to balance carbs protein , fats and supplements) to use for the rest of your life which book would you choose?
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so lou if you had to pick a book of nutrition with values ( how to balance carbs protein , fats and supplements) to use for the rest of your life which book would you choose?
I don't think there is one. Maybe John Berardi or Tom Incledon will write the definitive text. Plus, the science and practice are changing fast, so any book you buy today was probably written two years ago, and will be out of date in two years.
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There's no perfect nutrition manual. Just like there's no perfect workout.

All sorts of nutritional strategies can work well or poorly for so many different people.

Even here, some people feel terrible on low carb diets, others can go forever without ever eating a grain of ...well, grain.

I'd say to start off on a pretty realistic plan, like TAP and The New Rules. At least for the nutritional strategy, not for the recipes and meal plans, themselves. Then read up on some of the others while you reap the benefits of your new, and easy to follow, diet.

Over time, you may find that you like veggies more, grains and taters less, and look into Berardi's 7 Habits of a Good Nutrition Plan or the Paleo Diet style foods. Or, somewhere in between.

I've changed a lot over the past 3 years, but I know that I could live the TAP style of eating forever, because it allows many foods that we've all grown up with (bread, pasta, rice, etc.). But, currently, I only eat those carbs on occasion. And, I don't really miss them.
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Even though its a bit pricy, I'm going to recommend Precision Nutrition. This set (it includes 2 books, a DVD set and two audio interviews) is by John Berardi.

I've found it useful and seem to be a little thinner as a result (even though my weight is holding steady at 185-ish).

If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask.

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