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Old 11-21-2008, 06:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default whats your nutrition strategy?

I've got my sights on an Olympic about April. Then doing a team half ironman in august with my brother.

I'm starting to increase time on the bike. I'm noticing that I really feel the effects of dehydration. So I've added another bottle cage to my bike. Finally bought some gels to try.

I am reading up on endurance nutrition but what is your typical strategy for racing or training?

With my sprint race i didn't do anything other than a powerade on the bike but that's not going to cut it anymore I'm afraid.
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I rock total liquid nutrition for anything less than 15 hours. My personal favorite for longer than 2 hours is a custom Sustained Energy, Heed, Endurolytes, Hammer Gel food bottle (all from Hammer Nutrition), premixed concentrated for the desired amount of time-
I use 300 calories per hour = 2 scoops heed and 1 scoop sustained energy. topped with some hammer gel expresso love, and endurolytes as per heat / exertion.

2 hr bottle = 4 heed, 2 sustained, etc...

up to a 3 hour bottle. for a century, I just premix and stow in a baggie to refill at a water stop. Training hard and long this summer, I was able to get all my nutrition in a food bottle and still enjoy the taste of fresh water, cause I "nurse" the bottle and wash down with water. Constant, even nutrition without GI distress or energy spikes. It does take awhile to find you "mix" both in concentration and in taste.
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Old 11-21-2008, 11:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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^^I call that "Sarah's Crazy Legs". It works, and works well.

My advice would be to try a sh!t load of different stuff until you find out what works for you. I'm learning that gels might not work for me, and am (was - it's starting to snow now so my 2 or 3 hour workouts go on hold for a while) starting to go to all liquids like Sarah.

Hammer Nutrition is awesome, and I think you can get in in Oz (Triathlon Training Marathon Training & More - Hammer Nutrition). Good luck!

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Old 11-21-2008, 11:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks guys.

Its getting HOT HOT HOT here. Currently 32 degree C. 77% humidity. With a feel like factor of 38.5 degree C (101degrees F).

I'm struggling.
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Old 11-22-2008, 04:17 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Stupidest thing I ever did was listen to newbie advice at the last moment before a larger event.
Rule #1: don't change your habits at the last moment.. if you want to try something new, do it when you train.. not for an event
Rule #2: remember (this is what I messed up too) that HR will go up considerably on a major event, due to the excitement & stress... an elevated HR + probably elevated effort means that less oxygen is available for your intestines = BIG BIG trouble if you try to eat solid foods.. only do this if you are in for either very easy or extremely long rides

The easiest system I used was: a Camelbak for nothing else but pure water.. you do NOT want gunky overgrowth in that bladder which is hard to clean.
Then put 2 water bottles on your bike which can have liquid drinks.. always try to include protein.. your body will consume approx. 10% protein of total energy. If you don't digest any, it will take it from body proteins.. your choice to waste away muscles or to take more protein.
Recipe: 1 part protein poweder (whey is easiest), 4 parts carbs. Currently I really really like IsoSpark as it has slower carbs and a ton of minerals (magnesium, potassium, sodium). Another option: equal parts of maltodextrin and glucose plus sea salt and a tsp/tbsp of glutamine if you want. Per liter something like 10g P /40g C would work out best.

This is really the best solution as you really don't want a too sugary drink when you are really thirsty and just 2 bottles aren't going to cut it. Camelbak FTW. (or a cheaper knock-off?)
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Old 11-23-2008, 03:23 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Took 2 GU on my ride yesterday and 2 bottles of water. I'm really sensitive to caffeine. Couldn't sleep last night then remembered the GU contain caffeine. Will be steering clear of them.

Had a look at that site eric. Will look into that more closely.
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Josh, Gu is okay if you're more than a couple of hours into a workout, and you're burning through the glucose quickly, otherwise it causes the "spike / fall" response because it's a shorter chain glucose than Hammer Gel. FWIW, three of the four competitors at the 48 hour mountain bike race I won last weekend went with liquid nutrition. One used Infinit nutrition where you custom design your own blend, which I'm going to try this winter in training.

BTW-If it's really hot, I add Hammer Nutrition's endurolyte powder straight to my bottles and use Elete straiht to mitigate cramping.

Espi- both Sustained Energy and Perpetuem, which I use interchangeably, have protein in them. Recoverite (Subtle citrus mixed with lemonade crystal light-yummm) has glutamine in it.
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Thanks so much silly. Your a great resource to have. Cheers.

Eric and other runners. How do you carry beverages while your running? I dug out my fuel belt tonight and it did nothing but put me off my entire run and totally ruin the pace. Tried carrying the bottle and that was a bit better but still not natural.

What do you runners do?
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When I'm doing a long run, I'll drive the course beforehand and plant some water bottles along the route, or I'll plan my run by a super market or gas station to run in and grab some water. I would imagine that you are running super early or super late (that's what I did when we were there), and if that's the case, then I might just carry a bottle in my hand. It gets to be a pain, but dehydration is a lot worse...
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Old 11-25-2008, 04:14 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Would have never thought about pre-dropping off water. That still seems weird.

Might do some more training runs while holding a bottle. Might see about smaller bottles then the 750ml bottle I used.

Even though I screwed yesterdays training run its still cool to be trying different things as I feel like they will really help me come race time.
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what about a camel back? Are those unsuitable/unstable/sloshy for running (as compared to cycling)?
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I hate holding a bottle when I run.

What about a water belt? I know you can get belts that have pouches for 2 - 4 smaller water bottles and some mesh pockets for gels, etc.

This kinda thing...

http://www.fuelbelt.com/fuel_belts/i...4black-big.jpg

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