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Old 01-24-2008, 12:24 AM   #31 (permalink)
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yeah, but is it ok if I bring in a paper about me for the psychologist at my school to read and then be able to help me after reading it?
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Real time response to questions tend to be more honest.
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Okay, so the first time I see a psychologist, they will ask questions and I will just answer them and it will all be step by step like getting to know the person process? or will they just ask me what the problems are and to tell everything at once? I don't want to end up forgetting anything, especially the important things. My mind can easily freeze and I can get nervous. I want to know what to expect before I go to make sure I am prepared.
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I would write something out because it will help you to organize your thoughts. Bring it with you, but don't pull it out immediately. Let the therapist guide the session. If you start to feel anxious and like you are having a hard time putting your words together, then pull the letter out and either refer to it to answer the questions appropriately or pull it out and hand it to the therapist to read.
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At least write stuff down. The act of writing involves more of your brain and helps you remember a bit more, and sometimes that's all people need to do to lock it in, they don't need to refer to the list/writing. But you can. If it were me I'd bring something, like Julie says. You don't want to forget stuff or be frustrated because you're afraid you're forgetting stuff.

But really, you want to be present and dealing with the therapist, not waiting on the person to read your writings.
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Thanks. I will bring notecards. I am going to make an appointment for next week. I think it has to be one week in advance at my JC.
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Thanks. I will bring notecards. I am going to make an appointment for next week. I think it has to be one week in advance at my JC.
The school should have some sort of counseling in place to help you. If they don't then you contact someone at NCLD - Home to see if they have any resources in your area. Some places offer MH services based on a sliding scale.

As far as your wanting people to like you, don't worry about it. Just be yourself. Got an issue that you can control? Work on it. I used to be a huge introvert...one day I decided enough was enough so I started talking to people. Now, a year or so later, it's not an issue.

Do not let what others think control your self image. I seriously doubt that everyone laughs when you walk by. You're not the elephant man or anything.

When I was in counseling for depression I did a daily journal. I wrote what I was feeling that day. In the left col, under the date, I put a face to signify how I felt - a smiley for a happy, etc. I'd write when the urge hit. In the right col (margin) I put my mood before bedtime. It helped me track my mood swings. My therapist read over them (to make sure I wasn't thinking about hurting myself). Just be honest. No candy coating.

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Old 01-24-2008, 11:58 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Whenever I try to be myself, things get worse instead of better. It's opposite.
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Whenever I try to be myself, things get worse instead of better. It's opposite.
You need to see a counselor, stat.

If you had some sort of MPD then you could wait until one of the other personalities came about before doing things. (sorry, old MH joke)
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What does MPD stand for? I know its a joke, but I am just asking.
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MPD=multiple personality disorder (I assume)
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MPD=multiple personality disorder (I assume)
Bingo, also known as dissociative identity disorder, aka DSM IV code 300.14 I think.

Anyway, see someone.
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I think you need more sprituality in you're lifetime.
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Absolutely! And, Mon, if you have a church that you attend, consider asking for help there, too. They will often know places in your local community that would be willing to help. Clinics, etc.
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mon - just a couple of comments regarding your thread title. I thought I grew up a lot when I realized that that not everyone would like me. And much of the time it was not my problem, it was theirs. And in any event it often is not in my control to change their minds. The second thing is that only "other people" are normal. No one is normal. I still work at it, but the better strategy is to learn to be courteous, respecting others' boundries, and protecting your own. Come up with some sort of plan for your life in which you emphasize the journey aspect more than the results. IE, when you arrive at a destination you then have to plan what to do next. But I much concur that you will benefit from getting help with these and whatever issues you need to deal with.
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Absolutely! And, Mon, if you have a church that you attend, consider asking for help there, too. They will often know places in your local community that would be willing to help. Clinics, etc.
I used to go to church "International Church of Christ" apart of the south cities region in california, but I stopped going because of many reasons. They are a cult even though they don't say they are. They are also very controlling. Everyone that is in relationships there have to talk to people within the church and do whatever the church tells them to do. When I found out they were controlling was when I was studying the bible when I started going (invited by a guy friend I knew all throughout high school that has been trying to invite me out for years and I finally came) and the girl that was studying the bible with me told me after I went to a different church service with a friend one sunday (in a yelling kind of tone) that I should not be going to any other church because they are not a real church and blah blah blah... (yes they have people study the bible to get baptized even though they were baptized at another church, and they consider "their" church the only true church). I have never been baptized before until there, but real bad experience with church and that church stopped me from being interested in church all together.

I did find another church to go to where people are nice and everything, but I don't feel like listening about God because of what my experience was at this other church.

I'm thinking about going back to the church that I feel comfortable going to, but not really the church service. I have a fear of being controlled again.

Has anyone ever heard of the International Church of Christ before that are in every state and planted almost in every country around the world? If you search at yahoo or google about it, there are many negative things about this church. People that leave the church, the people there call them "fall aways" even though they went to a new church that is not apart of the ICC.
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Has anyone ever heard of the International Church of Christ before that are in every state and planted almost in every country around the world? If you search at yahoo or google about it, there are many negative things about this church. People that leave the church, the people there call them "fall aways" even though they went to a new church that is not apart of the ICC.
That's an offshoot of the "Church of Christ" denomination that I've grown up in and attended my entire life. The International CoC was formed about 30 years ago.

Their beliefs are basically identical to my church (naturally, since 30 years ago they were the same church). But you'll find in any religion and denomination that there is a broad range of congregations. In my the Church of Christ I've seen very strict, controlling churches, very laidback churches, and everything in between.

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I did find another church to go to where people are nice and everything, but I don't feel like listening about God because of what my experience was at this other church.
I understand what you're saying, but eventually you may be able to separate the bad experience from the whole idea of spirituality. When I ate a bad meal last week I didn't decide to give up food.

Going to church and listening/learning about God aren't always the same thing. The people in this thread were recommending church because of the community/support aspects, and that's a very good thing. It addresses the core issue you've been posting about (how to connect to people and be accepted).

Not sure if the International Church of Christ in your area will give you that, but that's no reason to throw out all other churches too.
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okay well I have been thinking about the day before every sunday if I am going to go to church sunday or not and I always wake up too late and become lazy and lost interest in going back to church. I want to go, but then when it comes to not waking up at the right time and going to bed at midnight, I don't want to get up in the morning and I choose to sleep in instead. I haven't gotten the motivation (if thats the right word to use) to go back to church yet.
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First of all, the Lord helps those who help themselves. If you want help, you'll have to try harder.

Secondly, many churches have Saturday, Sunday, and Sunday afternoon services. Evenings, too.

Finally, just go and talk to the minister. Not on Sunday. He or she will be busy. You could even call and find out when they have "office hours." A time set aside to work and help with their parishioners.
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I want to find a church with people around my age, not just mostly adults. Hopefully I can force my butt to go to the one by my area that I have been to before and like this Sunday.
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I want to find a church with people around my age, not just mostly adults. Hopefully I can force my butt to go to the one by my area that I have been to before and like this Sunday.
Umm. You are 21. You are an adult now.
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Umm. You are 21. You are an adult now.
Exactly. Which means you can bribe people to be your friend now.
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"Normal" is subjective. Maybe you could substitute another word for "normal" as I'm pressed to define WHAT normal is these days.
What do YOU want your life to be and look like?
I work with ppl w/ severe LD --sometimes along w/ other disabilities--and these feelings of your are not "normal" for your self-described group even.
It is common for people to want to be liked b/c we are social animals. I think you are taking it to an extreme, though.
As far as your spec ed history, well, that you can either carry around as baggage (which'll do nothing for you), or get past and get on. You may not be able to change your particular LD or issue(s) but that doesn't mean that you have to consider yourself so limited. You probably know what works for you and what doesn't! Yay!
You complain about others not liking you but you don't seem to like yourself either, which again, isn't gonna win over many folk.

"I also go to music boards for my favorite artists and go to concerts and meet people and hang out at the shows. None of them think I am fake or make fun of me because of my learning disability and they see me in person to at shows." Well, there you go! Maybe you need to cultivate your friends where your interest are--case in point! You will learn some day that not everyone everywhere will like you (or me, or anyone) AND THAT'S JUST HOW IT IS. OHHHHHHHHHH WELLLLLL.

I'm sorry to also echo this but you need to get into therapy STAT! You have work to do and should probably do it w/ some professionals who do this for a living. And keep trying different churches and books and everything...b/c you will find tools along the way that will help you help...YOU.

B/c of this self "inspection", in the long run, you will be better off & stronger than say someone who never did the awareness work and ends up in middle age doing something crazy or feeling completely lost.
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Mon, what does it really matter if no-one likes you or whether you're the most popular person on the planet???? (and even then, there will be people that don't like you because they'll be jealous of your mega popularity) All people are different, and you can't be everyone's cup of tea. Going to see a counsellor or psychologist or whatever other mental health professional you choose to see will only help you if you stop resisting help ie: stop making excuses. Until then, you are just wasting your time and money. Switch your focus from being 'normal' (if there is such a thing) and being liked by all to just being yourself - even if you do stuff up who cares, it happens to everyone. Some people get past it while others dwell on it - but it happens, life is like that. Trying to be everything to everyone will just drive you crazy. All the best girl.
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What ever happened to the trip to the counsellor? And have you officially been diagnosed with a learning disability or are you still waging a battle with hypochondria?
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Questions one and two, nice and pleasant. Question 3 is a little mean spirited don't you think?
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Maybe. Mon knows I think she's a hypochondriac, though. Kobe Bryant hurts his pinkie, next thing you know she's posting a thread about weak pinkies and what she can do to make hers stronger.

Strange days indeed.
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