Am very interested in the whole motivation and inspiration to model and change your life.
Just wondered if anyone else had studied ofr looked at NLP (Neur Linguistic Programming) a good friend of mine has sent me a dodgy word document of a self study course I would be happy to share or indeed learn from others knowledge on the subject
I'm a new member here and I am studying NLP. This may sound funny but I recommend NLP for Dummies...great book!
I'm a hypnotherapist and use NLP in my practice.
Here's a bit about it:
Each of us happen to possess in our skulls, the most sophisticated computers ever conceived of and no one thought to provide instructions. No wonder changing how we do the simplest task, often meets with failure.
If you climbed behind the wheel of a car for the very first time and had no instructions to guide you, how far do you think you'd get before driving into a ditch or up a telephone pole.
So, how do NLPer's create the knowledge necessary to learn how to operate our own minds?
Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) studies the structure of how humans think and experience the world. Obviously, the structure of something so subjective does not lend itself to precise, statistical formulae but instead leads to models of how these things work. From these models, techniques for quickly and effectively changing thoughts, behaviors and beliefs that limit you have been developed.
Many of the models in NLP were created by studying people who did things exquisitely well. Models such as meta-model, metaprogram, sensory acuity, Milton-model, representational systems and submodalities among others, provide a diverse set of tools for creating change in yourself and others.
Someone who wanted to create a model for learning to drive a car really well, might approach a expert in the field something like this - Instead of asking an expert driver, " How do you drive?" ("Very well, thank you."), they would be concentrating not on the content of what they did but on the underlying structure such as how they represent driving in their mind, the beliefs and attitudes they had about driving, the strategies they used in making decisions, how often they change their oil, (skip that last one) among other factors.
Let's use something called submodalities as an example of how a model works. By understanding how we perceive the world through our five senses, we can then understand how some people can respond very resourcefully in a situation and others do not. Once you learn how those who remain resourceful set up their representations, then it's a simple matter to teach others to do the same thing.
The Example: Imagine seeing an enormous spider dangling directly in front of your face. Now clear your mind (sorry, didn't want to leave that image hanging around). A common way for people to have a phobic reaction to spiders or anything related to them, is to picture a spider completely oversized and far too close in their minds.
Spiders are tiny, well-mannered creatures that are far more frightened of you than you should be of them but try telling that to someone with that particular phobia.
So, why don't these phobic people notice the images they're creating? The popular belief is that we don't pay much attention to what's going on in our unconscious. If you considered the enormous amount of information your brain has to process each day, it's probably best that we don't spend much time dwelling on it (otherwise, we would probably sit around babbling and drooling and eventually starve to death).
Well, what do we do about our friend with the phobia, Extra-strength cans of Raid for a house warming gift?
NLPers ask the question, "If another person can have fun playing with their pet spider, what can we learn about them that we could teach the phobic person so they can play with spiders, too?" (Or something like that). The spider-lover would most likely have an image representing spiders that was proportionally correct and at a reasonable distance and possibly other factors not worth getting into right now. Knowing the difference, the NLPer can use one of many techniques to help the phobic person relearn their reaction to spiders so that it is similar in nature to the spider-lover's (hopefully less of the lover part).
The above example may sound complicated but phobia treatments often take less than half an hour. An powerful change with a minimal investment of time and effort.
NLP is based on many useful presuppositions that support the attitude that change is imminent. One of the most important is, NLP is about what works, not what should work. In other words, if what you're doing isn't working, try something else, anything else, regardless of whether what you had been doing should have worked. Flexibility is the key element in a given system, the one who is most likely to do well responds to changing (or unchanging) circumstances. That's one reason NLP has made so much progress in an area where such is not the norm. Innovators try out things with little regard as to its "truth" or "reality", NLP is much more interested in results and giving people what they want from life (sappy yes, but "true" nonetheless).
Presuppositions are beliefs that someone practicing NLP will find useful for creating changes in themselves and the world, more easily and effectively. The emphasis here should be on "useful" not whether each one could be proven to be "true". Practitioners of NLP often include different presuppositions in their list but what follows are the most common:
Communication is more than what you're saying.
The body communicates constantly in ways that go far beyond words.
People already have all the resources they need to effect a change.
(The resources just weren't lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time.)
Choice is better than no choice.
Every behavior serves a positive intention and a context in which it has value. (The behavior may never lead to that positive intention but that part of you can learn new behaviors that do. As to a context that has value, imagine overeating at an expensive brunch (got your moneys worth didn't you?). Go with me on this one, it really helps. )
There is no such thing as failure, only feedback.
Every response is useful, you may hate the response but the knowledge you gain from it is valuable.
If someone can do something, then it can be modeled and taught to anyone else.
The map is not the territory.
(We cannot contain every bit of information that comes to us in the world, so we have to create a "map of the territory" and then refer to the map for our information. By changing a person's map, we change their reality.)
The meaning of your communication is the response you get.
(If you get slapped, try anything else.)
If you aren't getting the response you want, try something different.
(See above.)
People work perfectly.
No one is "broken". They are functioning perfectly in what they are doing now (even if it is ruining their life), it's a matter of finding how they function now, so that we can help them change into doing something they consider more desirable.
The representational systems in NLP are simply enough the five senses. We represent the world using the visual (images), auditory (sounds), kinesthetic (touch and internal feelings), gustatory (tastes) and olfactory (smells) senses. We picture ourselves lying on a sunny beach, hear the voice of the lifeguard yelling, feel the sensation only sand in your bathing suit can produce, taste the soggy egg salad sandwiches we brought for lunch and smell the aroma of the surf wafting into our nostrils. Our thinking consists of these images, sounds, feelings and usually to a lesser extent, tastes and smells. The entirety of our experiences have been recreated through these senses in our memories and govern our capabilities and beliefs.
Curiously enough, our predominant representational system in a given context often shows up in our language, for example: Responding to the statement: I think the Jensen project is going well. Visual: Yep, looks good to me. Auditory: I been hearing good things about it. Kinesthetic: I feel good about the whole project. Olfactory: Smells like a winner to me. Gustatory: I can taste the victory.
It's no wonder smells and tastes are less commonly used considering how hard they are to work into conversation.
The qualities or attributes of the representations you make using your five senses are submodalities. For example, make a picture of someone you love in your mind. Now, make the colors more intense and notice how it affects you response to it. Now make it black and white and notice your response. Return it to its original shades and hue and bring the image closer. Now move it farther out. Return the picture to its original state, noticing how each of those experiments affected your response. Submodalities are the fine tuning to your representations and can be used to create powerful changes.
The interesting thing to note here is that once you understand that you create your internal world, you realize you can change it.
I'm a psychology student and I must say that NLP is NOT an empirically validated approach, which means that those who use it don't follow strict guidelines that will help the client to get the best out of the therapy.
Cognitive-behavioral therapy, on the other hand, has almost the same premises as NLP (at least when I compare it to what was shown in the 2 previous posts) but it has been shown to be effective for some problems and there IS a treatment manual to follow. Therapist (well, you should see a psychologist or a psychiatrist if you want someone giving you advice in this domain) also need to have much more formation than so-called "therapists" can have.
That's just my 2 cents, someone paying for a service should only get the best .
I must say that NLP is NOT an empirically validated approach, which means that those who use it don't follow strict guidelines that will help the client to get the best out of the therapy.
Cognitive-behavioral therapy, on the other hand, has almost the same premises as NLP (at least when I compare it to what was shown in the 2 previous posts) but it has been shown to be effective for some problems and there IS a treatment manual to follow. Therapist (well, you should see a psychologist or a psychiatrist if you want someone giving you advice in this domain) also need to have much more formation than so-called "therapists" can have.
That's just my 2 cents, someone paying for a service should only get the best .
With all due respect, do you not see the contradiction in the two sentences I put in bold? If they have almost the same premises, how can one be effective and one not?
For the record, I am a licensed, insured, and certified hypnotherapist. I do have a psychology background (BS in Health Studies with a minor in Psych)and am beginning a master's program in psych in January.
cheers for that Lisa shall look out for the dummies book as havent seen that around.
I see their is a place for both schools of thought anyway. NLP is great for goal setting, motivation and steeriung the ship whereas a clinical approach for much deeper rooted issues and those that are lost at sea
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"The time for talking has passed, actions are speaking louder than words."
With all due respect, do you not see the contradiction in the two sentences I put in bold? If they have almost the same premises, how can one be effective and one not?
For the record, I am a licensed, insured, and certified hypnotherapist. I do have a psychology background (BS in Health Studies with a minor in Psych)and am beginning a master's program in psych in January.
It all depends of what you do with it. Just like there are millions of people that read the bible but not everyone of them does the same thing. Some people who will go to a NLP-oriented therapist will see an improvement, but this doesn't mean that NLP is a valid theory in itself. There's a placebo effect in psychotherapy, which means that people who see anyone (therapist or not) for something that they believe to be a therapy, there will be an improvement. Only a handful of therapies have been proven to be more effective than the psychological placebo, Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy (CBT) being one of them. And it's not because someone follows the CBT guidelines that he's successful with it, there has to be some formation that last years because when there's someone giving you access to their private life and believe that you are competent, the results can actually be worse.
cheers for that Lisa shall look out for the dummies book as havent seen that around.
I see their is a place for both schools of thought anyway. NLP is great for goal setting, motivation and steeriung the ship whereas a clinical approach for much deeper rooted issues and those that are lost at sea
Not really. Most cognitive-behavioral therapies can be quite short (12-15 sessions) but the difference is that psychologists are thoroughly educated. It's as if you were going to see a bonesettler instead of a doctor. I'm not saying doctors of psychologist are perfect though, but the fact that they studied years in this domain, follow strict and empirically proven treatment means that you have the best chance in the world to get better.
By the way, NLP is not studied in university level classes.
Andrew my interest in NLP is not from an in depth psycho analysis path purely motivational and goal setting.
Mind you it seems we have difference in the way we use psychologists in this country. Rarely would we see one and only from referal from a doctor, this doesnt seem the case in the US.
I only have one experience with a trained therapist, and i think he had forgoten what people skills were!
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"The time for talking has passed, actions are speaking louder than words."
Andrew my interest in NLP is not from an in depth psycho analysis path purely motivational and goal setting.
And that is exactly how I use it in my practice. I do not do psychoanalysis and I am not diagnosing nor treating anything. My client bill of rights states that, and I am sure to make that clear to all of my clients.
I am a personal trainer as well and use NLP techniques to help my clients become more motivated and learn how to "speak" to themselves in more positive, effective manner. They are happy, refer to me, and keep coming back, so something is working!
The Example: Imagine seeing an enormous spider dangling directly in front of your face. Now clear your mind (sorry, didn't want to leave that image hanging around). A common way for people to have a phobic reaction to spiders or anything related to them, is to picture a spider completely oversized and far too close in their minds.
Spiders are tiny, well-mannered creatures that are far more frightened of you than you should be of them but try telling that to someone with that particular phobia.
So, why don't these phobic people notice the images they're creating?
My particular phobias are heights and flying because I always imagine myself falling or crashing. I can't get it out of my head. The plane shakes a bit, an engine is going to fall off and down we go. The wind picks up, I'm going to get blown off the roof, all 180lbs of me and down I go.
The only time flying didn't bother me was going out to my father's funeral.
Anyone done NLP?
I do not do psychoanalysis and I am not diagnosing nor treating anything. My client bill of rights states that, and I am sure to make that clear to all of my clients. 
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