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Old 07-10-2009, 06:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Didn't make to Vegas for the NSCA but will be quite happy catching the fights on TV at home.

So who you guys picking?

Fitch vs. Thiago

Belcher vs. Akiyama

Bisping vs. Hendo

Mir vs. Lesnar

and the REAL main event GSP vs. Alves

Fitch will survive I think. Belcher too good overall and stronger than Akiyama. Damn I hope Hendo lays a beating on Bisping. That guy has gotten too many gift decisions. Lesnar too much of a silverback for Mir.

And I think GSP will find a way to win.
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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So who you guys picking?
I'm putting the undercard fights also because I'm one of those people who hopes one of the main fights ends early so I get to see more fights...

Lesnar vs. Mir (HW) - Yes, I know, wishful thinking, but I will hang on to my non-reality-based optimism for another 24 hours.
GSP vs. Alves (170)
Fitch vs. Thiago (170)
Henderson vs. Bisping (185) - I would prefer Hendo, because all things being equal, I cheer for the older guy. But Hendo at 185 just doesn't seem as relaxed as Hendo at 205.
Akiyama vs. Belcher (185)
Coleman vs. Bonnar (205)
Danzig vs. Miller (155)
Jones vs. O'Brien (205) - although everyone I know is picking Jones.
Kim vs. Grant (170) No sense or logic, I'm just cheering for a fellow Canadian here. Wouldn't mind if Kim won, though, because I thought he should have gotten the decision against Karo back in UFC94.
Dollaway vs. Lawlor (185)
Grice vs. Gugerty (155)


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Old 07-11-2009, 09:52 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Lesnar vs. Mir (HW) - It's a tossup in my mind really but I think Mir got a lot of optimism after beating a torn ACL\Staff infected Nog that should have been in the hospital rather than the cage. He'll try to stand up with a guy that he shouldn't be standing up with.
GSP vs. Alves (170) - Alves is scared
Fitch vs. Thiago (170) - Thiago isn't going to get 2 freak wins in a row
Henderson vs. Bisping (185) - Upset pick. Bisbing isn't as good as he thinks he is but there's no denying he believes in himself
Akiyama vs. Belcher (185)
Coleman vs. Bonnar (205) - Coleman looks like shit...again
Danzig vs. Miller (155) - He's due a win
Jones vs. O'Brien (205) - Jones cracks under the pressure of his last fights awesomeness
Kim vs. Grant (170) - HOPEFULLY he'll start finishing people
Dollaway vs. Lawlor (185) - Another gimme fight for Dollaway
Grice vs. Gugerty (155) - don't know either guy well enough to make a call
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Old 07-11-2009, 04:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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From the heart and not the head always...

Mir, GSP,Fitch, Akiyama,Danzig, Kim and Dollaway.

Let's hope we don't end up with a bunch of snorers! Lot of expectation on this card!
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Old 07-12-2009, 12:29 PM   #5 (permalink)
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watching Bisping get wrecked was awesome.

GSP is too good for anyone at 170. Swick/Kampmann will pose no threat. yet, IDK if going to Anderson is the smartest thing too do.

Brock is awesome! haha. forums are going crazy with hate for the guy right now. thats a pretty powerful girl scout on your back huh Mir? I think the Target Center may be the only place Brock gets cheered now, haha.
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When Bisping got hit I was waiting for Chris Tucker to run out screaming "You got knoced the f*** out!" The shot he took causes people to retire. When he finally stood up he was asking people where he was...ouch.

GSP is one of my favorite fighters. Seems like a classy guy and very very skilled. He took Alves to the ground at will, although Alves did show his strength by muscling back up multiple times and surviving a few times with GSP on his back.

Brock is just a freak of nature. He sorta blows up the old Gracie thought that skill trumped all over brute strength. Now that Brock seems to have figured out his game I don't see how any of the current heavys can survive his '1-arm bear hug while beating you in the face with the other hand' style.
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Old 07-12-2009, 06:33 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'd take Barnett and of course Fedor over Brock any day and twice on Sunday. Just don't enjoy watching him act as a blanket with giant paws. Much rather watch fighters with a more complete skill set.

Good show though. Really enjoyed the Belcher-Akiyama battle, as well as Hendo mauling Bisping. I think people now see what happens when he runs into some real competition.
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Just watched it. Akiyama was impressive. Good to see GSP fight through his injury - hope it's not long healing - but it showed his heart in a way his opponents haven't! Lesnar? Meh... again I think it was Mir being weak rather than anything else - I look forward to someone stepping up. And his performance after? Appalling.
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Old 07-13-2009, 02:35 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Bisping getting crushed was epic.

Akiyama might consider cutting weight.

GSP looked really good.

Lesner actually impressed me. He's not godlike or anything but he didn't do too much downright stupid. Biggest thing I noticed was this was the first time he really drew back to land strikes on the ground. With each one that landed you could see Mir get a little dumber.
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I just watched the highlights of GSP Hendo and Lesnar...GSP looked to be in total control, cool,calm and all business.

Lesnar is just a beast...I wonder if he can take a solid hit. But to get one through you'd have to take one, and I don't like the prospect of trading shot with someone like him.

Hendo was the agressor, he had Bis on his backwards bike from the start. Nice knock out shot!!!
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:28 PM   #11 (permalink)
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None of us got to see the real match up of the night . . . Dana White ripping Brock two new orifices. Brock will be walking with an odd limp for two months.
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Yeah - but people will just put it down to him "getting on top of his wife", while "enjoying a Coors Light with his friends and family"!?!?!?
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So if one were to look into those two new orifices, we'd see a bottle of Coor's Light?

I've more or less liked Lesnar, since he is pretty much a local boy to me here in Minnesota -- personality aside -- must just by the typical roid rage. However, even as he was doing his shenanigans, I was thinking like a businessman myself . . . reputation, viewers, sponsors . . . I was heartened to hear of Dana White's reaction because it affirmed his desire to portray mma/ufc as a reputable sport (and make millions of dollars) lol

I was also a little put off by Hendo's additional flying knockout punch to the already KO'd and prone Bisping (as awesome as it was. lol) If Hendo knew he was out, as he said he did, bad blood aside, I feel it was over the top, not to mention unneccessarily dangerous. Ideally, the ref could have made a quick assessment and gotten in there fast enough, but that might has been pretty extraordinary to be able to do.
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I've more or less liked Lesnar, since he is pretty much a local boy to me here in Minnesota -- personality aside -- must just by the typical roid rage.
I just wish that the UFC had marketed Lesnar as “strong silent steely blue eyes guy who left the fake world of pro wrestling to challenge himself in the real sport of mma" type rather than “crass homophobic and lacking in sportsmanship who needs to be reminded to not antagonize sponsors" type.

I'm perfectly happy to ooh and ahh at his skill, speed, intensity and learning curve, I don't need the stupid shtick.

I'm glad that Fitch-Thiago closed the card so I could enjoy the grappling and forget about the B.S.

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I just wish that the UFC had marketed Lesnar as “strong silent steely blue eyes guy who left the fake world of pro wrestling to challenge himself in the real sport of mma" type rather than “crass homophobic and lacking in sportsmanship who needs to be reminded to not antagonize sponsors" type.

I'm perfectly happy to ooh and ahh at his skill, speed, intensity and learning curve, I don't need the stupid shtick.

I'm glad that Fitch-Thiago closed the card so I could enjoy the grappling and forget about the B.S.

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I realize my last post we quite tempered. I was pretty disgusted with Lesnar's behavior.
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Lesnar? Meh... again I think it was Mir being weak rather than anything else - I look forward to someone stepping up. And his performance after? Appalling.
do you think Mir would lose to Sapp, Hong Man Choi, Giant Silva, Ron Waterman..etc? I doubt it. he was on the ground with a legit BJJ black belt for almost two rounds and was never anywhere near danger. he showed the ability to change levels quicker than shit when his opponent throws something. he also slipped most of what Frank threw.

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doubt it was anything more than "that was great but don't diss the sponsors." Dana knows as well as anyone that Brock made himself a star an Saturday. as much as people hate to admit it, there are "heels" in every sport and they tend to be pretty big draws.

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agreed. I personally don't care about what Brock says or does as long as no one's getting hurt. The bottom line is his little outburst got more media attention than anything the UFC has done in ages. It's getting attention. Sure it may be negative but attention is what the brand needs to grow. GSP dominates his past...4-5 fights...no one gives a shit. Brock flips off the fans....articles on the front page of yahoo for 3 days.

Seems like Hendo is getting more shit than he deserves. You don't want to be putting people in danger (more than the obvious), but it's the ref's job to stop fights not the fighters
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I just wish that the UFC had marketed Lesnar as “strong silent steely blue eyes guy who left the fake world of pro wrestling to challenge himself in the real sport of mma" type rather than “crass homophobic and lacking in sportsmanship who needs to be reminded to not antagonize sponsors" type.

I'm perfectly happy to ooh and ahh at his skill, speed, intensity and learning curve, I don't need the stupid shtick.
Unfortunately, I think that may be his personality coming coming out more that the UFC taking a particular marketing route with him. As he said at the post-event press conference, he hates to lose and was pretty emotionally invested in this fight. His fight with Herring, on the other hand, was a little more of the "showmanship". Not to mention, it's pretty hard to keep a gigantic former professional wrestler to slip onto the role of the "silent type."

Agree with you on enjoying the Fitch fight to end the night.
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doubt it was anything more than "that was great but don't diss the sponsors." Dana knows as well as anyone that Brock made himself a star an Saturday. as much as people hate to admit it, there are "heels" in every sport and they tend to be pretty big draws.

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You may be right. In which case, if that draws in more viewers, then my opinion of guys in the 18-35 demographic just went deeper into the crapper. I'd like to think that the organization wants to keep things more in line with being a respectable sport versus a WWE where anything really goes.

So go we the way of crowds in the colliseum; as went Rome, so we are headed.
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do you think Mir would lose to Sapp, Hong Man Choi, Giant Silva, Ron Waterman..etc? I doubt it. he was on the ground with a legit BJJ black belt for almost two rounds and was never anywhere near danger. he showed the ability to change levels quicker than shit when his opponent throws something. he also slipped most of what Frank threw.

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You're probably right - maybe it's just cause i wish you weren't! Lol

But I've never been impressed with Mir, even the win against Nog - didn't look like Nog and Arlovski - well that looked like Arlovski's screw up more than Mir's talent.
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