4th rnd submission to Randy - what can i say? I have a feeling....
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ever since the fight was announced I've been on the fence... and i still am. I think Couture via decision via superior game plan, but i can also see brock via referee stoppage
I'm wrong 90% of the time but I'm going with Randy via TKO early.
Randy is going to run out and hit him, Brock is going to freak out and turtle and that'll be that. Brock *can* win, I just don't think he will.
The longer the fight goes I think Randy will be hurting. Say what you want about WWE boy, he's still a HUGE athletic man that's going to outweigh Randy by 50-60lbs. You can say that Randy has fought bigger guys, but I don't think Brock and Tim are even in the same "physical" league.
I'm wrong 90% of the time but I'm going with Randy via TKO early.
Randy is going to run out and hit him, Brock is going to freak out and turtle and that'll be that. Brock *can* win, I just don't think he will.
The longer the fight goes I think Randy will be hurting. Say what you want about WWE boy, he's still a HUGE athletic man that's going to outweigh Randy by 50-60lbs. You can say that Randy has fought bigger guys, but I don't think Brock and Tim are even in the same "physical" league.
I think they are both going to run out and just start going at it. Brock has the upper hand with his size and strength, and realistically technique can only get you so far against someone that much larger and stronger. That goes vice versa as well, size and strength can only get you so far, but that's a HUGE difference between them.
I don't think Brock will turtle. I think if he does anything that he will make a very stupid mistake like he did against Mir, and Couture is less forgiving with mistakes.
Brock may be training with legit guys but odds are it won't be enough.
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I think randy by tko or submission by the second round. I dont think brock will be able to bowl right over randy. I think randy probably prepared for the initial onslaught that lesnar will bring. Lesnar will eventually make a mistake and randy will capitilize on it.
It that doesn't happen, lesnar by extremely violent ko.
I think Lesnar is going to win this one. Not because of age or strength, but because I think Couture will be mentally distracted by the Affliction lawsuit stuff. And I really really hope I'm completely and utterly wrong in this prediction.
As for the rest, I'm thinking Gonzaga, Stevenson, Maia, McCrory.
I think they are both going to run out and just start going at it. Brock has the upper hand with his size and strength, and realistically technique can only get you so far against someone that much larger and stronger. That goes vice versa as well, size and strength can only get you so far, but that's a HUGE difference between them.
I don't think Brock will turtle. I think if he does anything that he will make a very stupid mistake like he did against Mir, and Couture is less forgiving with mistakes.
I'm staying on the fence, I can't call this one.
Funny you use the phrase that I believe will be Randys strategy...
Using the fence. Keeping Lesnar pinned against the fence in te corner of the cage, using true MMA to keep Lesnar guessing-opening up holes in his game. I dont think they will trade blows in the middle of the ring, that would be foolish for him. I see him shooting kicking using the clinch to gain positioin and work Lesnar. No one has really tested him. No one has caused him to change a game plan or reallly even challenge it. Look for the strategies that Couture used in the Sylvia fight especially.
After seeing the weigh-in pics, I'm even more worried for Randy. I can't stand Lesnar, but I really don't think Randy has a chance after all that's happened over the past year.
Look for the strategies that Couture used in the Sylvia fight especially.
Tim wasn't a D1 national champ. he didn't have the UofMN's assistant wrestling coach(been there 16 years I think) working full time in his camp. also didn't have Cole Conrad coming off of 2 straight national titles at 285 training with him.
Randy's only hope in this fight is dirty boxing. getting in that close with a giant who is/was a better wrestler, is stronger, more powerful, and very likely faster? he better be praying that Brock has the most fragile jaw he's encountered.
Randy doesn't have Mir's guard, and even Mir wasn't getting very far until Brock made a mistake rookie wrestlers are prone to making. he has 2 subs in his career I think, but people are making him out to be a submission specialist who will tap Brock with ease. he has no KO's in his career, but people are making him to be a KO artist who will tag Brock and drop him with ease. Brock controlled every aspect of the Herring fight for 3 full rounds without slowing down, but people are saying he comes out wildly and will gas.
if it turns out Brock has any kind of chin, Randy is in for a long night.
I have no idea. It's age & experience vs youth (relative) and athleticism. Randy might find some way to win it with his experience, especially if he can drag it into the later rounds. I don't see how he'll beat Brock though since Randy's strength is also Brock's strength (wrestling) and Brock is far and away bigger and stronger. I think it's a bad matchup for Randy. Randy's not the most powerful guy so he's probably not going to KO Brock, and Randy's subs aren't all that impressive so I don't see him subbing Brock unless, maybe it's later in the fight. I'm hoping Randy can pull this out but I'd say it's 50/50 or lean toward Lesnar.
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That f#$king sucks!!!! I kinda figured Brock would win, but it doesn't make it any easier to swallow. He's just a physical freak, unbelievable.
Don't worry. He didn't look THAT impressive. He looked like he was getting tired already and his skills didn't look too improved. Big Nog stands a pretty good chance of beating him.
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Don't worry. He didn't look THAT impressive. He looked like he was getting tired already and his skills didn't look too improved. Big Nog stands a pretty good chance of beating him.
Yes, he really did look like he was getting winded at the end of the first round. I was hoping Randy could hold out until he got tired enough that he could take him. The trick is staying out of the way of those damn hamhocks, oops, I mean fists.
Gonzaga looked good in his fight. Granted it wasn't top competition, but I think he'd match up well with Brock.
Just caught up and watched the fights today - all the main card fights were good. Florian really impressed me. He'll give BJ a tough fight.
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I thought Randy was doing ok till he got caught - why are people talking like he got spanked?
Anyhoo... Fedor Arlovski anyone?
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I thought Randy was doing ok till he got caught - why are people talking like he got spanked?
Anyhoo... Fedor Arlovski anyone?
Ditto. I thought he was well on the way to winning.
Not that interested in FvA. Arlovski has been having trouble knocking out questionables here recently. I don't think he can (will) wear Fedor down OR hurt (beat) him standing.
I thought Randy was doing ok till he got caught - why are people talking like he got spanked?
Anyhoo... Fedor Arlovski anyone?
He didn't get spanked but he took some pretty brutal shots. A huge elbow, knee, a couple of punches, and then the hook to the ear.
I thought that Lesnar looked great despite his fighting age regarding MMA. He was breathing hard but still using good technique. I thought he was getting winded but not as winded as everyone is making it out to be. Most of the time it looked like he was conserving energy when pressed on the fence and trying not to make stupid mistakes.
In fairness - i was impressed with Lesnar. For a man with most of his improving yet to come... I only see Nog in the UFC to beat him at the mo. Mir would lose a rematch I think.
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In fairness - i was impressed with Lesnar. For a man with most of his improving yet to come... I only see Nog in the UFC to beat him at the mo. Mir would lose a rematch I think.
And Nog and Mir have to fight first, which gives Brock a lot more time to train...
So....Lesnar v's Couture...Who you got?
He's just a physical freak, unbelievable.
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