UFC 63: Penn vs. Hughes - JP Fitness Forums

kuri · 09-20-2006, 08:08 PM

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Matt Hughes Vs. BJ Penn

Name:	Matt Hughes
Height:	5.9
Weight:	169
Record:	41-4-0

Name:	BJ Penn
Height:	5.9
Weight:	170
Record:	10-3-1

"The Prodigy"

Mike Swick Vs. David Loiseau

Name:	Mike Swick
Height:	6.1
Weight:	185
Record:	11-1-0

"Quick"

Name:	David Loiseau
Height:	6.0
Weight:	184
Record:	15-5-0

"The Crow"

Jason Lambert Vs. Rashad Evans

Name:	Jason Lambert
Height:	5.10
Weight:	205
Record:	22-5-0

"The Punisher"

Name:	Rashad Evans
Height:	5.11
Weight:	225
Record:	9-0-0

Joe Lauzon Vs. Jens Pulver

Name:	Joe Lauzon
Height:	5.10
Weight:	155
Record:	12-3-0

"J-Lau"

Name:	Jens Pulver
Height:	5.7
Weight:	150
Record:	21-6-1

"Little Evil"

Gabe Ruediger Vs. Melvin Guillard

Name:	Gabe Ruediger
Height:	5.10
Weight:	155
Record:

"Godzilla"

Name:	Melvin Guillard
Height:	5.9
Weight:	168
Record:	38-6-3

"The Young Assassin"

Roger Huerta Vs. Jason Dent

Name:	Roger Huerta
Height:	5.9
Weight:	155
Record:	16-1-1

"El Matador"

Name:	Jason Dent
Height:	5.9
Weight:	155
Record:	12-6-0

"Dynamite"

May not be broadcast. Click for details.

Mario Neto Vs. Eddie Sanchez

Name:	Mario Neto
Height:	6.1
Weight:	235
Record:	9-3-0

"Sukata"

Name:	Eddie Sanchez
Height:	6.2
Weight:	230
Record:	7-0-0

May not be broadcast. Click for details.

Danny Abbadi Vs. Jorge Gurgel

Name:	Danny Abbadi
Height:	5.11
Weight:	185
Record:	2-2-0

"The Assassin"

Name:	Jorge Gurgel
Height:	5.9
Weight:	155
Record:	12-1-0

May not be broadcast. Click for details.

David Lee Vs. Tyson Griffin

Name:	David Lee
Height:	5.10
Weight:	155
Record:	5-1-0

Name:	Tyson Griffin
Height:	5.6
Weight:	155
Record:	7-0-0

You pick 'em!

Alwyn said he'll be there to see it live. How cool would a little first hand reporting be *hint*

Only days away and they don't have photos of 3 of the fighters... you know these guys are getting paid!!

Misfit · 09-20-2006, 10:02 PM

I hope they broadcast the Pulver fight on PPV.

getgot211 · 09-20-2006, 10:02 PM

Penn by...

dos · 09-20-2006, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Misfit

I hope they broadcast the Pulver fight on PPV.

No brainer.....if they don't Dana White is saying that he would rather parade his TUF losers on PPV rather than a proven UFC fighter.....one that was considered one of the best in the world. I mean c'mon, it's a who's-who of guys who couldn't win on TUF....

kuri · 09-20-2006, 11:51 PM

Yeah Pulver would never make it through TUF

His fight with Gomi in Pride was one of the best matches in recent memory. Can't wait to see him light up some folks again.

BJ speaks: http://www.bjpenn.com/media.php

David.W · 09-21-2006, 06:26 AM

Top 3

Hughes by stoppage,
* I know Penn is Matts boogie-man, but Matts game is different, hes stronger and has more experience than the first time around. Saying that, Penn always has a chance.

Loiseau by stoppage
*I love the guys striking from the gaurd

Evans by decision
*I think hes a boring fighter lacking the ability to finish when it counts but he always squeaks by

just my 2 yen...

Chris D · 09-21-2006, 10:10 AM

My Picks on a couple of these

Hughes gets revenge on Penn
Pulver wins making it 3 and 0 for Militech fighters on this night!
Lambert (more experience?)
Abbadi - If I remember correctly Gurgel hasn't been that impressive in his 2 fights...perhaps now he will be.
Swick wins as well

dos · 09-21-2006, 01:26 PM

Just remember Abbadi getting his ass-kicked on TUF and saying 'I'm an ultimate fighter!!' as he was sent packing back the airport.....WTF?! Thought the whole point was for the WINNERS of TUF to be able to say "Hey! I'm a fucking Ulitmate Fighter Biatch!"

Chris D · 09-21-2006, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dos

Just remember Abbadi getting his ass-kicked on TUF and saying 'I'm an ultimate fighter!!' as he was sent packing back the airport.....WTF?! Thought the whole point was for the WINNERS of TUF to be able to say "Hey! I'm a fucking Ulitmate Fighter Biatch!"

Didn't know that Abbadi was on TUF....since that's the case then I'll take Gurgel, but I don't think it's going to be impressive.

Anyone else but me think that they bring to many of the TUF fighters into the mix? Only one's that should make it to the UFC are the 2 finalists in each category. Seems like they've flooded the market and no one gets to know the fighter because they are always bringing people in. I guess you could say that they aren't developing people.

kuri · 09-21-2006, 07:15 PM

Yeah, it's almost enough

to make one think that Dana brings in dudes he knows they can pay next to nothing instead of building a quality stable of top shelf guys that may demand a fair payday.

I'll bet money that none of the guys on this card, aside from Hughes, Penn, Loiseau, maybe Swick & Pulver, are making even low 5 figures this weekend.

I don't mean to keep harping on the pay issue but I refuse to fork out $40 when I know the UFC are seeing mid 8 figures per event but paying shit to the guys that actually make it happen. It's just like major record labels screwing over ___ (insert artist) for decades.

It's enough to make me wanna see Penn school Hughes again and take the belt back to Japan.

dos · 09-22-2006, 09:38 AM

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It's enough to make me wanna see Penn school Hughes again and take the belt back to Japan.

Now THAT would be BAD-ASS.......

Waittz · 09-22-2006, 10:41 AM

in taht penn interview he said hes staying with ufc for the time beeing. "At least the next 5 fights". Anyone see the spike countdown for this fight. It looks like penn is such a gifted athelete and doesnt really care or train all that hard. He reminds me of all those kids from back home who had rich parents and never worked a day in their life. I just really dislike his attitude. When he loses he just talks smack. Granted he doesnt lose all that often but still. Its one thing if he beat st piere and talked smack. But i mean, you lost. Stop talkin like you walked out that fight with your hand raised. Shit the only reason he got this fight is cause team canada pulled his groin.

Waittz · 09-22-2006, 10:44 AM

oh as for my picks. I like matt in the 4rth by rear naked choke.(your turn penn)

The crow is gunna stomp swick. Hes a bad bitch. As for the rest of the card........ehhh....who gives a shit. Way to make a great ppv dana. Put evans against a nobody and put a legend against ....a nobody. Then put a bunch of nobodies with tuf rejects.

kuri · 09-22-2006, 02:08 PM

Matt catching BJ in a sub? now THAT would be earth shattering.

And Matt talking about standing with BJ... yeah right. He's gonna shoot for the double the instant BJ connects.

The real problem for Matt is that even if he gets BJ on his back BJ's open guard game is far better than anyone Hughes trains with. I'm curious to see how Matt will defend the stream of subs.

ReadyDad · 09-23-2006, 06:12 AM

I like the Hughes-Penn and Swick-Loiseau fights, but everything else stinks. I can't wait fror Pride to come to the U.S. I just hope they aren't forced to water down things too much.

Hughes by decision, after stomping BJ for 5 rounds; Loiseau by stoppage, round 2.