Damn that Dana! With all that build up I thought Jeremy was gonna fight.
Oh well, gives him another week to get in shape. I was going to the gym he was training out of back when he fought Diaz in the UFC. Jeremy is a strong dude - he threw around some good iron in the gym and didn't do any of that machine circuit crap. Lots of power cleans, deads, squats etc...
After that loss he had a falling out with his manager (who was also a manager of the gym I worked out at) and was offered some good money to pro box, so he went to Silva's boxing gym in Ventura. Fernando Vargas's trainer showed some interest in him at the time.
Last I talked to him he won his first two boxing matches via KO. Guess after the UFC started blowing up he figured it'd be a good time for a comeback.
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Well he looked good in training and he was nice and relaxed - looked confident.
Bodes well.
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hummmm....damn women...or something like that! I didn't watch the whole episode, but watched long enough to know that Jeremy got the boot for a booty call!
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Talk about an anti-climatic fight! Just watched last nights TUF on TIVO....WTF?! Take down defense....I understand that he was on his hip immediately but I have seen LOTS of guys defend when someone has your back...LOTS. I don't buy into the noton that Lutter is the guy to beat in this thing....one overhand right KO (a long time ago...)does not mean that you are now a well-rounded MMA fighter.
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No shit Dos. The guy that lost was talking about his ability on the ground but was easily owned. Obviously he's never watched a Sakuraba fight.
I'd pick Shonie over Lutter any 'ol day.
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Yeah, whole show was disappointing - but the actual fight was worse!
He did exactally what was expected and still the other guy just wasn't prepared. He was like a rabbit in a car headlights the whole time!
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No shit Dos. The guy that lost was talking about his ability on the ground but was easily owned. Obviously he's never watched a Sakuraba fight.
I'd pick Shonie over Lutter any 'ol day.
The pimp daddy would NEVER go down like that!
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I found that even after he tapped in his post interview he was raving about how he is still the better fighter and athlete! He got beat cleanly and quickly and looked like he was a novice fighter and still had the audacity to say he was the better fighter and athlete! What a joke...
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I found that even after he tapped in his post interview he was raving about how he is still the better fighter and athlete! He got beat cleanly and quickly and looked like he was a novice fighter and still had the audacity to say he was the better fighter and athlete! What a joke...
YUP, that's why they fight the fights! I hate that when fighters have the nerve to say shit like that post-fight.
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"NO CHAMPION HAS EVER ACHIEVED HIS OR HER GOAL WITHOUT SHOWING MORE DEDICATION THAN THE NEXT PERSON; MAKING MORE SACRIFICES THAN THE NEXT PERSON; WORKING HARDER, TRAINING, AND CONDITIONING HIM / HERSELF MORE THAN THE NEXT PERSON; ENJOYING HIS / HER FINAL GOAL MORE THAN THE NEXT PERSON"
I like to stick with "The older I get, the better I was!", myself.
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Have to admit that upon seeing all that blood, I was getting lightheaded, too. I was on the verge of freaking out, and Ko just matter of factly said, "cuts to the head just about always resorts to a lot of blood..." and it wasn't any big deal to him, so I calmed down.
Ko didn't think that another round was even needed since Dewees clearly won the two rounds. And I thought Ray's 'tude afterwards was in the area of "sore loser"; which was surprising since the majority of the guys have been displaying pretty good competitive mentalities. That's truly been refreshing this season.
ON THE SUBJECT OF SORE LOSER.....A SORE LOSER IS ONE THAT TRIES TO TAKE SOMETING AWAY FROM HIS OPPONENT, WHICH RIGHTFULLY BELONGS TO HIM......GIDEON STATES " DEWEES IS A GREAT FIGHTER, HE PUT UP A TOUGH FIGHT, AND THE JUDGES HAD A JOB TO DO....U SHOULD WATCH THIS OVER AND OVER, PERHAPS TOO MANY BREWS WHEN SHOW WAS ON???? perhaps u should get your ears cleaned and research fighters before you speak on them, Ray has a disciplined background in tae kwon do and he was very humble after the fight he stated " the fight in his eyes was at least a draw" u know and i know if you follow the ufc fights we've seen fights stopped with way less bleeding then what was coming from "the poster boys" head, so dont flatter yourself.....in addition everyone is entitled to their opinion but lets be real ....sense the ufc is "as real as it gets" or is it ????? in one breath it states that the rules are if there is blood in the fighters eyes or is blocking vision then the fight is supposed to be stopped....well if thats the case it should have been stopped...blood in his eyes, his oppenents eyes, NOSE and MOUTH????? ....trust me, when ray was on top of deweess he clearly executed his targets, when deweess was on top of ray he supposedly controlled the fight???????????????are you sure or did he attempt to deliever blows to ray and ray delivers him another elbow to the face again...not again, ,maybe that was another lucky wild elbow too GUESS AGAIN MY FRIEND......many of the bias views im getting from this forum???? ummmmm i wonder why?????? perhaps you dont look at things with a fair eye? or maybe you only have one, or maybe your'e blind, but the things you state really make you sound BIAS or someone who is programmed by telivision stand on your on 2 feet and always speak the truth FYI
Ladies and gentlemen let's welcome our newest member Gideon Ray. BTW Ray, you did make excuses after losing to Dewees, expecting to have the fight stopped while you are getting beat is not the same as winning a fight or being a better fighter.
As far as the cut goes, it was not in a 'dangerous spot' for the fighter. Irrelevant how much blood was pouring out or who it was pouring on.....think of it as a "danger of the job".
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Ladies and gentlemen let's welcome our newest member Gideon Ray. BTW Ray, you did make excuses after losing to Dewees, expecting to have the fight stopped while you are getting beat is not the same as winning a fight or being a better fighter.
As far as the cut goes, it was not in a 'dangerous spot' for the fighter. Irrelevant how much blood was pouring out or who it was pouring on.....think of it as a "danger of the job".
fyi this is not gideon ray because if i was i would kick your ass!! for making dum comments, however on a lighter note there are no excuses and thats a true gladiator which could face defeat or mere politics and still keep on coming back.....gideon ray if you ever see this email please contact me i am a multi-millionaire who stands for the truth i am currently trying to contact your management so you can stopped getting fucked by fork tounge liars who see what they want to see...again the ufc states "this was the bloodiest fight in ufc history" then why the fuck wasn't the fight stopped???? BECAUSE THATS NOT HOW THEY PLANNED FOR IT TO GO.......gideon ray not only split his opponents head wide open but lets not forget to mention weeses real weight was a roaring 28 pounds heavier then Ray on fight day, perhaps thats why all he could do was lay on top of Ray
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In Ray's words "I cut him open with a vicious elbow to the head". Ahh, no you didn't, there was nothing vicious about it....watch it again and it was the luckiest cut ever. Hardly even a strike.
wow hardly even a strike and that much blood, i would really hate to see a real one then, the only thing i see vicious....is the lies you and the rest of the klan are typing, but what do i expect the views to be since this sport probly started on your forefathers plantation
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Whoa...time to calm down. I think this can be debated without the name-calling
u are a cute girl i guess the name calling is not neccessary but it can be very upsetting to see a person flat out lie , watch the tape of the fight again and compare to other fights you have seen stopped due to bleeding and you will know what i am talking about
wow hardly even a strike and that much blood, i would really hate to see a real one then, the only thing i see vicious....is the lies you and the rest of the klan are typing, but what do i expect the views to be since this sport probly started on your forefathers plantation
Ever been in a fight? Ever see how easy it is to cut someone wide open with the tape on your wrist let alone an elbow? Didn't think so.....quit trolling around here will ya? You sound like a sherdogger to me...on second thought, even the wackest sherdoggers have more MMA knowledge than you.
Hmmmm, wonder how this became a racist thread all of a sudden. couple of things...maybe this isn't Gideon Ray. Hey, are you George Dubya?
Lastly, who cares when the weight of the fighter was at fighttime....weigh-ins are something EVERYBODY has to deal with. If the UFC is down with weighing in fighters 1 or even 2 days before a fight, so be it. Deal. Funny thing is that YOU are the one making more excuses than Gideon Rray did.....funny dude.
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Ever been in a fight? Ever see how easy it is to cut someone wide open with the tape on your wrist let alone an elbow? Didn't think so.....quit trolling around here will ya? You sound like a sherdogger to me...on second thought, even the wackest sherdoggers have more MMA knowledge than you.
Hmmmm, wonder how this became a racist thread all of a sudden. couple of things...maybe this isn't Gideon Ray. Hey, are you George Dubya?
Lastly, who cares when the weight of the fighter was at fighttime....weigh-ins are something EVERYBODY has to deal with. If the UFC is down with weighing in fighters 1 or even 2 days before a fight, so be it. Deal. Funny thing is that YOU are the one making more excuses than Gideon Rray did.....funny dude.
not george dubya, maybe your'e george not many people who can lie with a straight face, but maybe its your weak evil, deceptive nature...hmmm not racist just a fact unless u feel your opinions or the unfare calls of the the judges are racist, not a sherdogger remember the name yourworstnightmare....i agree no exuses but being real is another thing, ??? my knowledge on mma????? i will bet your life earnings........ it is very expeirienced put your money where where big mouth is i gaurantee if rematch Gideon Ray will prevail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!name the price or shut up!
YWN, arguing a point is one thing but throwing out insults and inane comments are another. If you wanna discuss then cool but trolls don't last long around here.
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YWN, arguing a point is one thing but throwing out insults and inane comments are another. If you wanna discuss then cool but trolls don't last long around here.
wow hardly even a strike and that much blood, i would really hate to see a real one then, the only thing i see vicious....is the lies you and the rest of the klan are typing, but what do i expect the views to be since this sport probly started on your forefathers plantation
Oh yeah, you didn't start a racist twist on this thing with this post did ya?
Ahh, the anonymity of the internet.....gotta love this shit! Only place where a 12 year old can pose as an MMA guru. Go do your homework junior....oh, and make sure to eat all of your vegetables.
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Oh yeah, you didn't start a racist twist on this thing with this post did ya?
Ahh, the anonymity of the internet.....gotta love this shit! Only place where a 12 year old can pose as an MMA guru. Go do your homework junior....oh, and make sure to eat all of your vegetables.
no racist twist my friend unless you call the truth racism,i call falsehood a lie, but thats usually what people do when they're trying to shield their filthy lies or exaggerations with sugar on top...its not working we can hold this conversation forever, yea you are right gotta love the anonymity of the internet because if you knew the credentials of who you are really talking to you would change your mind and im myself no badass im just a fatass u likes to talk shit on the internet and your'e dum enough to let factual insults get under your skin, ask yourself who really is the 12 year old...best of luck in all your endeavours
No racist twist, my friend, unless you call the truth racism. I call falsehood a lie, but that's usually what people do when they're trying to shield their filthy lies, or exaggerations, with sugar on top.
It's not working.We can hold this conversation forever.
Yeah, you are right.Got to love the anonymity of the internet, because if you knew the credentials of who you are really talking to, you would change your mind.
And I'm myself nota badass.I'm just a fatass.You likes to talk shit on the internet, and you'r'e dumb enough to let factual insults get under your skin.
Ask yourself, "Who really is the 12 year old?"...
Best of luck in all your endeavours.
He's right Dos. There's no way he reads/writes at a twelve year old level.
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Damn! Wish I could come up with witty retorts like that! But of course, I don't have the same credentials as you. Thank God!
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who stands for the truth i am currently trying to contact your management so you can stopped getting fucked by fork tounge liars who see what they want to see...again the ufc states "this was the bloodiest fight in ufc history" then why the fuck wasn't the fight stopped???? BECAUSE THATS NOT HOW THEY PLANNED FOR IT TO GO.......gideon ray not only split his opponents head wide open but lets not forget to mention weeses real weight was a roaring 28 pounds heavier then Ray on fight day, perhaps thats why all he could do was lay on top of Ray
i guess the name calling is not neccessary but it can be very upsetting to see a person flat out lie
, watch the tape of the fight again and compare to other fights you have seen stopped due to bleeding and you will know what i am talking about
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