If you read in this section, I'm anxious to hear what your thoughts on this rematch. Do you think the "old man" still has what it takes to beat Tito?
Shamrock was one of the reasons I got into the UFC in the first place and he's always been one of my favorites, however I just don't think he's got the stamina to finish off Tito this time either.
Only seen bits and pieces of them...but in general (obvious exceptions) age does seem to be the biggest dragon slayer in MMA.
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truth is Shamrock never had what it takes to beat Tito. the file is too big to host on youtube or anything, but the first fight was completely one sided. several years older and increasingly senile, Ken has no chance.
Forrest's face is lucky Tito had a shopping list of injuries. picture the first round of Ortiz-Griffin x3.
Honestly I think it's a bit sad. I know Ken has gone through some divorces etc... and is trying to get a paycheck but this is a tough way to do it.
From watching his fights and TUF it doesn't appear as if he's learned a damn thing in 10 years.
I'm not even going to get the UFC PPV. The Pride Grand Prix show on tonight has vastly superior fighters.
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Shamrock is going to get killed. By the way does anyone know where else I could watch the fight for cheaper than the 40 bucks that pay per view is charging. I want to see the fight but not for that much...
In my area, every Hooters restaurant shows the fights on the Big-Screen that you can watch for free (they just expect you to order some wings). Give them a call in your area to see if they're showing it.
Im agreeing, Shamrock is going to get beatdown. You could see it in season 3 he has no idea how to train, hes a bodybuilder that could once streetfight and picked up some leg locks on the way.
Do they roid test in UFC? because I have a feeling Ken will be training with a hypodermic needle and a lifting routine similar to Franco Columbo
Shamrock let his entire team down during TUF. Their cardiovascular fitness was the weak point, and Ken's will be no different. Tito trains for greatness, Ken thinks hes destined for it.
I hate the guys attitude sorry, I can see why Tito pushes his buttons.
Ken thinks he has something to prove. Best part, his insult lines are the worst-"living death" HAHAHA! I think besides the finger flipping, Tito has much more class, and is more professional. Just my 2 cents.
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I agree with pretty much everything everybody's saying, but dammit I HATE Tito Ortiz's cocky f'ing attitude! He seems like such a punk, it makes me sick. And I knew it WASN'T going to happen, but I wanted to see him beat down!!!
It looked entirely too easy for Tito but hey, Ken got paid. At least now we can look forward to seeing Tito try and deal with Chuck.
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It looked entirely too easy for Tito but hey, Ken got paid. At least now we can look forward to seeing Tito try and deal with Chuck.
Did youhear ken tell Tito something like 'hey man, we got paid a lot of money!' as if this made these three debacles alright or something. Joke. I like Tito but I sure hope he realizes that taking Ken down looked about as easy as me taking my daughter down.....rest assured that it AINT gonna be that way vs. Chuck.
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