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Old 04-17-2006, 07:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Looking forward to UFC 60 - May 27

HUGHES VS. GRACIE

Deffinately looking forward to this fight. I havn't heard about who's on any of the undercards and I can't say that I care. It'll be great to see Gracie come back after all this time to see what the UFC has morphed into in his absence and how his MMA applies now. Not to mention Hughes is a great fighter and should be a great show.
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this PPV will be worth it no matter what the other fights are if Royce can sub Matt. man i would love that.
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Old 04-18-2006, 12:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
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You know he's gonna try - and it's gonna be damn hard for Hughes to prevent it. Alot of the fighters are well trained in MMA, but Gracie is a master.
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Old 04-18-2006, 02:25 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Hmmm....There are considerably better strikers in UFC now than there were in Gracie's day, and he's older and slower now.
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Old 04-18-2006, 11:45 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Am I the only one that doesn't think this fight will be that entertaining?

Royce is pretty good at avoiding strikes and taking it to the ground but Matt is not a good striker anyway - did anyone see Pay de Pano vs. Monson last weekend?

Have you seen Royce's last few fights in K-1? Not very impressive to say the least.

Matt will take Royce down. Royce will play guard while Matt sits there and nails him with elbows. Royce gets kinda close to a coupla subs but Matt's experience and strength allows him to escape.

3rd round decision for Country Boy Hughes.
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I need to stop by Team Militech and see if I can watch Matt workout. I don't know much about this fight, but I'm all about watching Matt go to work. Guy doesn't have a bit mouth. Just gets in the ring and goes to work. My type of guy.

I would like to see him even the score with BJ Penn.
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I would like to see him even the score with BJ Penn.
that wont happen
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Old 04-19-2006, 02:51 PM   #8 (permalink)
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It will if BJ decides to take a nap in the middle of the fight as he did against G st. Pierre.

Personally I am looking forward to a some other fights on the card.
Vera vs. Assuerio Silva
Riggs vs. Swick
and especially Sakara vs Lister

Sakara could develop into a really exciting fighter. His boxing is already pretty sick.
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Old 04-19-2006, 06:30 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I figure BJ Penn is a lock for the lightweight division, where he should be a force to be reckoned with.

As far as Hughes-Gracie is concerned, I'm not expecting it to be close... I would be suprised if Hughes doesn't take care of business, although I would love to see Gracie beat him. Then again, I picked Arlovski to beat Sylvia hands down, and we all know what happened there.
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I figure BJ Penn is a lock for the lightweight division, where he should be a force to be reckoned with.
AFAIK Penn has no interest in going to lightweight. Sherk should be a force in that division. Penn's original plan was GSP, Hughes, Franklin. not to sure but chances are he'll have a fight to kill time i guess, maybe Sanchez or Karo, then winner of GSP-Hughes.
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Old 04-19-2006, 11:18 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Sherk is gonna be frightening in the 155lb division! Talk about your brick shithouse build.

He's gone the distance with Hughes (even winning the 4th or 5th round I believe), not to mention all the other guys he's beaten at 170.
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Old 04-20-2006, 07:33 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Yes no doubt Sherk should be a force in that division. He looked TINY compared to Diaz (well, in height at least), yet still took him, and I believe his only losses are to GSP and Matt Hughes in his MMA career.... not too shabby.

I think Penn would be killer in that division as well, I hadn't heard he wasn't planning to switch... he seemed pretty dejected after losing the split decision to GSP, it wouldn't suprise me if he took some time off. Still, one of my favorite fighters to watch.
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I saw the UFC "Best of Gracie" special was just floored by Royce's intensity. Tap out all you want - he goes until the ref pushes him away. I hope he still has that, but I like my man Matt Hughes. Besides, Hughes-GSP will be the highlight of 2006 - there's no way that fight can't happen.
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i saw something like that too. im no expert on this, just started with martial arts:P but i was suprised to see how he dident care about the tapping:P doesnt that take away the whole point of the tapping? he could break someones something like that:P
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Well the Gracie-Hughes fight is not a title fight, so the results shouldn't affect any GSP-Hughes rematch... I guess, unless Royce wanted to go for the title...
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I've discovered where all that revenue is going: http://60.ufc.com/

I don't know... Matt "country breakfast" Hughes sounds nervous to me
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Has gracie really been winning much latly? or has he fought at all latly?
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I don't know... Matt "country breakfast" Hughes sounds nervous to me
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Old 05-19-2006, 06:12 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Video of Royce training for Country Breakfast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M6SKkeBBO4
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Thanks for sharing that....Is it just me or are they showing his training to be at a very relaxed tempo/intensity? Particularly the striking? Trojan horse?
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Old 05-23-2006, 04:33 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Matt Hughes Vs. Royce Gracie
Name:Matt Hughes
Height:5.9
Weight:169
Record:40-4-0

Name:Royce Gracie
Height:6.1
Weight:180
Record: 13-1-2



Brandon Vera Vs. Assuerio Silva
Name:Brandon Vera
Height:6.2
Weight:223
Record:5-0-0

"The Truth"
Name:Assuerio Silva
Height:6.1
Weight:240
Record: 30-3-0



Mike Swick Vs. Joe Riggs
Name:Mike Swick
Height:6.1
Weight:185
Record:10-1-0

"Quick"
Name:Joe Riggs
Height:6.0
Weight:185
Record: 26-8-1

"Diesel"


Diego Sanchez Vs. John Alessio
Name:Diego Sanchez
Height:5.11
Weight:170
Record:16-0-0

"Nightmare"
Name:John Alessio
Height:5.10
Weight:170
Record: 22-8-0

"The Natural"


Melvin Guillard Vs. Rick Davis
Name:Melvin Guillard
Height:5.9
Weight:168
Record:37-6-3

"The Young Assassin"
Name:Rick Davis
Height:5.9
Weight:155
Record: 3-0-1

"The Flying Squirrel"


Spencer Fisher Vs. Matt Wiman
Name:Spencer Fisher
Height:5.7
Weight:170
Record:16-2-0

"The King"
Name:Matt Wiman
Height:5.10
Weight:155
Record: 6-2-0

""Handsome""


Alessio Sakara Vs. Dean Lister
Name:Alessio Sakara
Height:6.1
Weight:205
Record:14-3-0

"Legionarius"
Name:Dean Lister
Height:6.1
Weight:205
Record: 7-4-0

"The Boogeyman"


Gabriel Gonzaga Vs. Fabiano Scherner
Name:Gabriel Gonzaga
Height:6.1
Weight:242
Record:5-1-0

"Napao"
Name:Fabiano Scherner
Height:6.3
Weight:245
Record: 5-2-0

"Pegaleve"


Jeremy Horn Vs. Chael Sonnen
Name:Jeremy Horn
Height:6.1
Weight:185
Record:86-14-6

"Gumby"
Name:Chael Sonnen
Height:6.1
Weight:185
Record: 14-7-1
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My picks in bold

Matt Hughes Vs. Royce Gracie by bloody decision
Brandon Vera Vs. Assuerio Silva probably by decision
Mike Swick Vs. Joe Riggs
Diego Sanchez Vs. John Alessio just cuz
Melvin Guillard Vs. The Flying Squirrel ... uuuh who?
Spencer Fisher Vs. Matt Wiman
Alessio Sakara Vs. Dean Lister takes it on the ground
Gonzaga Vs. Scherner - set your alarm or you'll miss the next fight
Jeremy Horn Vs. Sonnen Horn beat him twice already
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Old 05-24-2006, 09:36 AM   #23 (permalink)
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They had a special on Hughes and Royce on Monday night on spike. It was pretty interesting to watch. Especially since they showed the Militech Gym. Been in there and worked out before. Cool place. Do have to wonder why Hughs is doing upright rows? Hope he's not busting up his shoulders.

Any how I hope that Hugh's takes Royce down, but overall I think it's going to be a very good fight.
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Old 05-24-2006, 01:21 PM   #24 (permalink)
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It's a definitely decent fight card, and one that a lot of people have been looking forward to for a long time. It'll be interesting to see how Royce stacks up against the new breed. I have a feeling Matt will take the win on this one.

Looking forward to the Riggs / Swick fight the most though. I think Swick will have his hands full this time around.

Also.... the Tito / Shamrock fight coming up later this year should be a good one!!!!
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My picks in bold

Matt Hughes Vs. Royce Gracie by bloody decision
Brandon Vera Vs. Assuerio Silva probably by decision
Mike Swick Vs. Joe Riggs
Diego Sanchez Vs. John Alessio just cuz
Melvin Guillard Vs. The Flying Squirrel ... uuuh who?
Spencer Fisher Vs. Matt Wiman
Alessio Sakara Vs. Dean Lister takes it on the ground
Gonzaga Vs. Scherner - set your alarm or you'll miss the next fight
Jeremy Horn Vs. Sonnen Horn beat him twice already
Royce by triangle. because i so badly want Hughes to lose, and for Royce to then say something about a country breakfast.

the rest.......................... meh.

this is seriously one of the worst cards i've seen in a while.

"Also.... the Tito / Shamrock fight coming up later this year should be a good one!!!!"

thats next month, and Tito will smash his face in...again.
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Ken needs to retire & he should do it before Tito's ACL tear heals.

Isn't Ken fighting Forrest Griffin this summer?

Dana needs to pry open the wallet and get some better fighters in there.
I mean The Flying Squirrel? Are you fucking kidding me? I bet they aren't paying those guys more than $3K a piece.

The WFA has Lindland vs Rampage in June @ San Diego, both of whom could beat Franklin & Chuck. Frank Shamrock is selling out arenas up in the Bay area.. and on and on.
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Ken needs to retire & he should do it before Tito's ACL tear heals.
agreed, his time is long gone. shoulda called it quits after the Franklin match.

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nope. it was gonna go down but Tito took the fight instead so he'll only have a few weeks to heal then train quick. i guess he figures, wtf its only Ken.

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I mean The Flying Squirrel? Are you fucking kidding me? I bet they aren't paying those guys more than $3K a piece.

The WFA has Lindland vs Rampage in June @ San Diego, both of whom could beat Franklin & Chuck. Frank Shamrock is selling out arenas up in the Bay area.. and on and on.
seriously, Rampage was on the market for a couple months and it doesnt seem like they made any attempt. Dana's take on Frank was "he's a weird dude" so he wont be UFC any time soon. Linland was rumored to be on TUF4(which is gonna be past fighters competing for a title shot) but he turned it down in the end cause he didn't think he belonged there. and i agree, the guy is a top MW, not some has been.
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I don't think Dana ever liked Lindland. He could dominate everyone in his weightclass but never KO'd guys - not as marketable as Franklin knocking Nate Quarry's nose off his face.

Chuck is Dana's boy so no way they'd bring in Rampage who'd whup his ass. Again. Even though Rampage would be a Tyson-like marketing boom for them it'd still be too much like Pride beating the UFC's best at this point in Dana's chrome dome.

I guess the bottom line is as someone that runs his own business I can't understand for the life of me why when the UFC is debuting at the Staples Center, making it the highest profile MMA event ever in this country, why do they bring in guys like Guillard, Gonzaga, and The Flying Squirrel?

Pride is rumoured to be having a Las Vegas show this fall, so along with the WFA and IFL, the UFC won't be able to get away with this lowball crap for long.
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I actually hope for some consolidation of the UFC, Pride, etc. Wouldn't it be great to see Pride's Fedor against anyone the UFC has to offer?

The MMA orgs have always been entertainment and spectacle driven, as opposed to being pure competitive circuits.
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ReadyDad... entertainment and spectacle like you said is what made MMA so popular now-a-days. With Dana at the wheel, they went mainstream and are now making more money then ever before. Didn't always used to be so, but that's how they evolved.

Looking forward to tomorrow though! I'm interested in the Riggs / Swick fight for sure.
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