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Old 06-25-2007, 03:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Tracking Your Goals: Short Term & Long Term

I never really mention it around here, but I keep a monthly log of
my long and short term fitness goals. I just keep in as a memo in
Microsoft Outlook. I have a reminder on my calendar to get me to
fill it out on the first of each month. I've been doing this for
about four years now.

I used to have a fear of getting fat again. I'm not so concerned
about it, now. But, we've all seen people lose weight, look good,
then a couple of years later, they're fat again. What happened?
Did they forget to not eat like a pig? Scale batteries needed
replacing, so they didn't notice? These aren't real reasons, of
course. We know the reason. Something else was wrong. I wrote a
little about that in Fat & Happy.

What I'm talking about here is keeping your eye on the ball; long
term focus, long term goals. These are critical, but what many
don't realize is that short term goals are also very important.
Sometimes we need or want to do something that seemingly conflicts
with our long term goal.

This is most often evident with the goal of losing fat. Especially
with a lot to lose. When I started, about four years back, I was
235lbs. Things went pretty steadily for quite some time (about a
year or so), but I remember the frustration when I finally hit a
plateau. But, I continued, singlemindedly, and, of course, nothing
happened.

Luckily, Craig Ballantyne was around to give me a shove in the right
direction. Craig had me stop the fat loss programs for a while and
concentrate on maintaining my weight and maybe putting on a little
muscle.

I'll admit that I was a bit panicky about this. It seemed like such
a long and steady road for fat loss. I really felt like I was a
good month or two away from being "done." Can't stop now! But, in
reality, I'd been convinced that I was a good month or two out for
at least 9 months...

Craig whipped up quite a verbose email speech and sent it to me. It
said something like: "your body is in starvation. eat more for
short term. then back to long term." Someone's really got to teach
Craig to "net it out" and stop with the rambling...

Well, those three short phrases got me to thinking and realizing the
importance of long and short term goals, and the relationship that
each has to the other. I think you all get the point that I'm
trying to make, but just in case... Long term = war, short term =
battle.

Politics aside, we want to win our own war. Our war on bodyfat, in
this example. But, the battles, like in real life wars, can be
straightforward attacks, holding strategies, feints, and all sorts
of other things that I really know nothing about. We can even screw
up a battle, then turn the war around with the next battle. We can
sacrifice a battle win for the good of the war, too.

Most of these things have analogies in the war on bodyfat, too.
My own stall was halted by a period of heavier eating and a
different weightlifting style. I added some muscle, knocked my
metabolism back into gear, and was able to get the fat loss headed
in the right direction just a few weeks later.

So, this brings me back to my point. The importance to have, look
at, remember, and track both your long and your short term goals.
You might even think about sharing them with friends or family (or
maybe even someone supportive?).

Keeping the long term goal in mind makes taking those necessary, but
hopefully brief, paths down the seemingly wrong path okay. You may
still wince, but you can do it. Because you know it's necessary to
KEEP you on the right path. It's hard to keep up your motivation
without a long term goal with a definite end point.

Similarly, sometimes it's hard to keep motivated when a long term
goal might not end for a long time. Short term goals, by
definition, will come to an end shortly. Pretty satisfying, right?

So, the short term goals have multiple purposes. Justification for
that side trip that might not feel "right" but is and also serve as
something like "rest stop" on your way toward your long term goals.
A chance to reset your mind and refocus on the next short term goal,
and remind yourself that you are one step closer to your long term
goal.

So, the long and short of it is that I keep my logs with my monthly
(at least) updates. Since I started, I've added general fitness and
health into, too. Blood pressure, resting heart rate, cholesterol,
etc. It's nice to have once place to go back to, to see how I've
progressed. I wish I'd started sooner.

I've known a lot of you for a long time. I've seen progress pics
and stories. I know that you all have a variety of methods to track
your progress and keep your goals in site. I know because we've had
many threads on our progress, itself. But, I can't think of one
that actually talks about HOW we chart it. How about sharing your
methods?
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Old 06-25-2007, 08:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Wow...great post, LD. I envy your commitment to goal setting and keeping. This is something I want to get much better at so I don't have any methods of my own to speak of yet. But, I'll be very interested to see how others create, manage, and stick to their goals.
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Old 06-27-2007, 10:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Really nicely put Roland.
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I have to confess that goal-setting, especially short-term, is one of the biggest problems I have. I have this idea of where I want to be -- leaner and more muscular -- but breaking that down into manageable steps seems to be impossible. I also find it easy to get sidetracked -- I was happily working away on such-and-such plan, then I figured out I had mobility problems, so I have to put that on hold and work on mobility.

Now I understand that mobility is essential for staying healthy and sidetracked on mobility workouts is FAR better than sidetracked because of injury. I guess I would like all the short-term goals to fit into a nice linear progression towards the long-term goal and I have trouble visualizing the entire picture when they don't.
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Old 06-27-2007, 02:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I guess I didn't say anything about SETTING the long term goal, huh?

Short term goals seem pretty easy to choose. See the 61 Day Challenge, for that sort of thing.

I'm forced to admit that I've had to adjust my long term goals several times, although the goal itself has only been slightly altered.

1st: Get Skinny.

Yep. That was it. But, what did I know? I was fat and knew nothing about weights or muscle mass. I ran. I ran a lot, too (for me).

2nd: Get Lean

Better.

3rd: Get Lean and Stay Big

Desperate, but better goal.

4th: Get Lean and Get Big

After realizing that I'd dropped below "big," the goal was adjusted.

5th: Get Lean w/abs and Stay Big

This is my current mode. You can see that, overtime, they weren't dramatic changes. The get lean part kept dragging my overall size down, which I didn't like. So, I had to add in periods of muscle growth to offset my fat loss. "Luckily," I've had plenty of fat loss plateaus in which to put on/recover some muscle mass.

I've also adjusted my definition of big. I used to want 8-10% body fat and 200lbs. But, I've since listened to the advice from a few friends (read women), who told me to chill out on that. Hey, none of those guys in 300 were any 200lbs! So, I'm good at 180-185...
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I guess I didn't say anything about SETTING the long term goal, huh?
Ooops. Suppose I should have stayed on-subject with goal tracking, not goal forming. Shoulda formed another thread...
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I've also adjusted my definition of big. I used to want 8-10% body fat and 200lbs. But, I've since listened to the advice from a few friends (read women), who told me to chill out on that. Hey, none of those guys in 300 were any 200lbs! So, I'm good at 180-185...
Yeah, I've been though similar stages, although I don't define it by numbers; I guess I have a certain look in mind. I remember at first thinking "I just need to drop about 20-25 pounds or so." By the time I lost 40 I realized I still had a substantial amount of fat to lose...

It's sort of like one's definition of "fit" changes. Ask an ordinary person on the street and they have this idea of someone who runs 5 miles. As you grow fitter and read and understand more, your concepts of fitness evolves.
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Ooops. Suppose I should have stayed on-subject with goal tracking, not goal forming. Shoulda formed another thread...
That wasn't what I meant. It just looked that way. Sorry.

Any way the conversation goes is good for me.
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I have all my projects tracked in OmniFocus now. It's basically Getting Things Done codified into a program. It also basically rocks.

I have a plain text file for the longer-term stuff... I think I'm going to end up rolling that into OmniFocus so I do exactly what you said you need to, keep the goals in sight. I end up not really looking at that list as often as I might need to.

I've also started doing what I did back in '02 when I lost the most weight. (Every year since then has been basically a wash.) I'm writing down everything I eat. Not so much to track exact numbers, but that's what I used to do, and nothing else has really worked consistently.

Then I also dump my weight into a spreadsheet... hence how I know I haven't really been moving toward that "weigh less" goal.

Somewhat round about, and probably a bit late... I'd been meaning to write this post for a while now. In any case, there it is.
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:49 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Goal #1- start tracking goals. (how'd that for short term!)

I have been lifting, dieting, not dieting, only doing cardio, lifting heavy, etc for a while now. I only recently learned how to train properly. With in the last 4-5 months. Saw almost immediate results. Felt great but wanted more. Then I started falling off the band wagon, but not completely. Well I am on with my w/o's (although I am on a break week for NROL) but diet, not so much. Lost dog I just talked to you a bit about it so I don't want to make you re-read it. ANYWAY I am JUST realizing after this GREAT thread that the one thing I have never tried is to track my goals. I am going to start today. I think I may need to start with REAL short term goals. Meaning, todays goal, then tomorrows, then the end of the week. What do you think Lost Dog? How should I start this? Just in a word document write no starchy carbs for today 8/7/07. Then same for tomorrow plus intervals then saturday start my new W/O program (FL1) and diet?

I am pretty much just wanting to get rid of that stubborn leg fat and belly flab.

You are VERY inspiring.
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Old 08-09-2007, 01:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
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My goal is very similar to yours lost dog
Long term to stay lean and fit with a six pack and get bigger(only a little bit).Sounds a little bit contradicting.
Short term: do well in my race, a 30k.

Because I am 20 yrs old and 150 lbs and about 5% bodyfat.

Very good post to lost dog!!!

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I came across this, today, thought someone might be interested.

http://corriehaffly.wordpress.com/20...ker-downloads/
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Old 04-09-2008, 11:58 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I like this thread! Thanks!

I'm doing ok with the fittness right now - I'm on a program that's working for me personally, but I'm still struggling with keeping focus on some other goals in my life. This is inspiring and helpful.

I really like the corrie haffly organizer - there are a few things I'd like it to do differently, but the list of long term goals and short term goals is an idea I hadn't used before. Though I don't know if I'll use that download, I'm going to start on that way of tracking goals.
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Old 04-10-2008, 08:13 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I agree. Great idea. I get so caught up about my long term goals that I forget to just focus on the goal at hand. Like my long term goal is to lose 20 pounds, so until I do that, I don't feel like I've succeeded, but perhaps I should set a goal for each week so I can celebrate the milestomes on my way to negative 20. It's so simple I don't know why I didn't think of it. That's why I love this forum. It constantly gives me reasons to looks at what I'm doing, reevaluate, and make changes in needed. Thanks again.
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I just wanted t post again and say that I accomplished my short term goal for today, which was to work out for an hour and stick to my diet plan. I love this new way of looking at my goals. Thanks again!
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I'm glad it's helping!
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