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Old 06-15-2007, 03:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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been trying to figure out what i was going to do after i finished fat loss 3, and i ran across this workout (fat loss 4 maybe? it's by cosgrove), looks like a killer, but after dieing multiple times with FL 2 and 3 especially, i should be ready to die just a few more times with this workout

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Old 06-15-2007, 04:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What has your progression been? Breakin, FL 1, FL 2, FL 3? I am assuming you have taken some time off, right? If it were me, I might look at Hypertrophy 1........

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correct on the progression, and before break-in i did the men's health homegrown muscle phase I. the problem is through all of that and better eating and more activity, i'm not losing pounds, and i get grilled every time i complain about that, because i am losing a lot of inches, and pushing a lot more wt then when i started, but i weigh 250-255, and have since i starteed this four or so months ago, and at 5'10", i konw 250 pounds is not an ideal body weight, so, i'm making all these body transformations, but my over all mass is the same, it's frustrating, for example, i signed up for a life insurance policy and the premium rate was at 210 pounds or below, my blood work was excellent, blood pressure, physical, they even had me do a stress test, and i blew it out of the water, and they wouldn't give me the reduced rate because i was over 210. frustrating. so when i saw the title of that, "real fast fat loss", i thought, hey, that's what i want. but i thought i'd better run it by the more experienced folk around here first. and yes, i do take breaks between programs, and if i feel really worn out or sore or something, i'll take an extra day off between days even.

i don't know, sorry for the long post to a simple question, just got to ranting and couldn't stop myself
so the better bet would be to go with hypertrophy one rather then this real fast fat loss program then? cause i don't want to get any bigger (arms and thighs have grown an inch each, chest about 3 inches, lost most of my inches over my waist and hips, don't remember exact number right now, but about 10 total)i eat clean almost all of the time, usually have a cheat meal over weekends, i know that last week was bad going to see my family, but that only happens once every few months, and prior to that, i was clean for three months. and i eat usually 6 meals a day, three meals (break, lunch dinner)about 400 cal, the other three (snacks) about 300, so around 2000 cal a day, that's what my calorie calculator said i should be getting.
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I was thinking about this last night and there are many ways to approach this. My first thoughts might be something like this. Take a week off. I know you said you took a day or two between programs but the programs you did are pretty intense Cosgrove's at least. During that week begin TNT Diet plan A. Ditch all of the supplements except for protein powder (for convenience), Fish Oil, and multi-vitamin. Save your money to buy food.

Consider for your next program something like Craig Ballantyne's Turbulence Training - body weight or dumbbell fusion.

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Old 06-17-2007, 11:57 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Joshua - would the insurance company relent if you had an acceptable body fat reading?
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Old 06-20-2007, 02:27 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I wouldn't worry too much about getting bigger just because it's a hypertrophy workout. That's a matter of diet. If you consume a caloric deficit and train with weights, you will continue losing fat. (Several experts around here confirmed that when I asked the question some time ago. If you really want, I can probably dig up the thread if you're interested.)
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Old 06-20-2007, 06:16 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I like the NROL hypertrophy workouts but his objection to them initially led me to just suggest something else rather than try to convince otherwise.... sometimes I find the sell is harder than I'd like...
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Old 06-20-2007, 07:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Why not do the TNT workout that comes with the TNT Diet?

Then just go back to FL1 again, if you liked it. It might be fun to see how far you've come, strengthwise.

If you're looking for variety, then you could switch to Turbulence Training. CB writes good programs that are always "fun" to do.
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