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Old 05-23-2007, 08:14 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Also, it was suggested that we get a new name for it. What shall we call this little challenge (soon to become a JPF tradition)??

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Maybe something that implies a fresh start or change, something to boost JP Fitness all the way around.
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:16 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Cool Cool Cool.. I think this is certainly something we need... hmm.... you saw my Egads Title.... I am not so good with naming things. But JP and I did a pretty good job coming up with Livin' Large...lol....

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Hey guys, Im happy to join in as part of the challenge. As far as personal goals at the moment they are geared towards Strength primarily and weight gain secondly.
Before and After photos are a good idea, perhaps for the strength side of things it should be based on an increase in Strength Co-efficient as per the Deadlift and Squat charts. Weight lifted/ Bodyweight
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Hmm well when in doubt you can always acronym.

JP Fitness R.E.B.O.R.N. Challenge : The Transformation Challenge for the JP Fitness Community.

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Old 05-23-2007, 08:36 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Sign gave us a summary of how things go. Now all we are doing is trying to design the parameters/ rules / definitions. It might be useful to define what compliance to a good nutrition plan would be or we can simply say it is compliance to whatever "your plan" is....

Scientific Journals are great. I was sitting in the Docs lounge today reading the New England Journal of Medicine...
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:43 PM   #36 (permalink)
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See in my docs office I go straight for the highlights magazine.

I ALWAYS FIND THE HIDDEN PICTURE!
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In responce to the nutritional part, I don't think much is needed to define clean eating, I think by now we should all know what constitutes clean eating and what doesn't. It does all boil down personal accountability though. If someone has a chicken sandwich at Mc D's and then comes and counts that as part of his 1/2 block for clean eating we would never know, it is up to the person to be honourable and either admit a falter or simply not eat dirty.

I am still in the process of fine-tuning a scoring system that keeps everything fair. Stay tuned.
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I'm in --

My diet buddy Sarah (Samba) and I have a personal "inches lost" challenge running from May-August so this would fit in perfectly and hold us accountable to all of you....
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Rowdy Awesome! You'll have to talk her into participating as well.
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Rowdy Awesome! You'll have to talk her into participating as well.
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Hmm well when in doubt you can always acronym.

JP Fitness R.E.B.O.R.N. Challenge : The Transformation Challenge for the JP Fitness Community.

Reach-Evolve-Begin-Obtain-Regain-Nurture


Can we tell I read to many scientific journals. Are you waiting for the Abstract of the Challenge?
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when I saw REBORN, I honestly was remembering something about a psychological approach to dealing with attachment disorder....
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Here is what I am thinking for the Nutrition aspect of things. The idea is to eat healthy and eat in a manner that supports your goals whatever they may be. Develop or Select your nutrition plan and adhere to it 90% of the time. If you need help developing a plan, let us know and we can all put our heads together. Points/Blocks/Gold Stars or Hulahoops will be counted based on the 90% compliance criteria.

Does this seem reasonable?

What do you guys want to see in terms of Resistance Training (days per week/minutes, etc)

Do you want to include points for HIIT/Intervals/Cardio/Walking? Other physical activity?

I was also thinking to encourage local community participation, etc you could sign up to "compete" or participate in an event such as a Lymphoma walk, Race for the Cure, JingleBell run (in Summer??? lol), weight lifting meet, etc for extra points, etc....

Thoughts????????????
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Old 05-23-2007, 10:02 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Try to keep it simple. You don't want a computer program to figure the winner, do you?

If everyone's on the same diet or workout routine, then you can make compliance and progression part of it.

If it's a free-for-all, then body measurements, percent changes, and finishing according to your goals are good.

If it's about being part of a healthy lifestyle and making the most of things, then encouraging participation in a variety of events, walks, etc. is good.

When a buffet has lots of different foods, we over indulge, and sabotage ourselves. We need to focus of a simple menu.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:47 PM   #45 (permalink)
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What if you split it into two groups, The most Gained and The Most Lost type of thing?
Giving freedom to the person to do whatever they want, however they want, to achieve their goals without setting any guidelines.

- Before and After Pics
- Measurements
- Percentages

I agree with Lost Dog, to many options seem to turn into a bad thing.
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Whether your goal is to gain muscle or lose fat, good nutrition is good nutrition. What I want is for people to develop or acquire a plan that will support that goal (think of the challenge as a mini goal setting workshop at many levels in and of itself). If they need help they can PM other members and ask questions or post it publicly and we can all help. The intent of the challenge is to help people define and achieve their goals in a certain time frame. In this case 61 days. Think of the SMART acronym for goal setting. I am pretty confident that nearly all will agree that adherence to your plan whatever it is is essential to achieving your goals. 80-90% in my experience achieves the best results. I want to see people get the best.

The Challenge has 3 Major Components at this time.

Nutrition, Training, and Personal Goal. You get credit for consistent nutrition and consistent training (two things most would agree are necessarily for health, wellness, and achiveving of personal goals) The first two areas tend to support the third - Personal Goal. Perhaps you want to gain weight. Perhaps you want to lose weight. Perhaps you want to lift a certain weight. Whatever it is, it doesn't matter.. it is yours. You get credit in some form yet to be determined for the achievment of that goal.

I also tossed out the the notion of participation in community events etc and types of training. I think these are important. Tell me what you think I think they add another simple dimension to things that would support goals and help us.

Bottom line. Set Goals, Develop a plan, Implement Plan, Evaluate, Get Results. Have fun in the process. Share as a community on a different level then we have been in awhile. Help your fellow forumite during the challenge.

Does this make any sense? Don't worry about prizes and scoring and things right now....that will come later... just consider the process and end results....


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nutrition plan/compliance, workout plan(s)/compliance, personal goal (wt /\ , wt \/, measurements /\ or \/, PR, whatever)
sounds like a good general challenge to me -
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wow this is going to be awesome, im just upset i wont be able to participate (leaving country for 2 months very soon and will def not be compliant to much during the time away).
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Anything? Just what have you been telling these people about me? :p

Of COURSE I am in!! Thanks, Jen!
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Well, it has been my experience that anyone who is "out of a suitcase" as your Location says -- is usually down for most anything. It is that carefree, throw caution to the wind sort of philosophy that I am looking for. We'll tame you yet!

Welcome, thanks for joining in....feel free to invite others....

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Sounds like fun. count me in James!
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Thanks Rem!! Everyone start thinking of your plans.. if you've already got one, great. If not, let us know and we'll help. We have lots of people on this forum who'd be willing to help.

By the way, I have been thinking about this. I think before and after pictures are a great idea and can be quite the motivational tool. At the same time, I do realize there might be some people who won't participate because of the pictures. No Worries. I don't want to exclude anyone on that basis... pictures will be encouraged, but not required.

Yo, LostDog!! You up for the challenge??

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Thanks Rem!! Everyone start thinking of your plans.. if you've already got one, great. If not, let us know and we'll help. We have lots of people on this forum who'd be willing to help.

By the way, I have been thinking about this. I think before and after pictures are a great idea and can be quite the motivational tool. At the same time, I do realize there might be some people who won't participate because of the pictures. No Worries. I don't want to exclude anyone on that basis... pictures will be encouraged, but not required.

Yo, LostDog!! You up for the challenge??

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I think LD needs to submit photographic evidence of before and afters of his shaved head...
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I feel somewhat challenged most days so why not make it official?
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I think LD needs to submit photographic evidence of before and afters of his shaved head...
The feedback from the chicks who've actually seen me is to keep the hair.

So, as fun as it would be for you all to mock my white scalp, it's not going to happen...

I am in on THE Challenge, though. Just not your challenge, Tina! :p
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Must Remember to bring NROL with me to the office tomorrow so I can start working on my plan.
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I absolutely love the idea of this challenge. I think it's just what I need to keep me going.

But...because of some extremely important committments I have right now that consume my time and energy, I wouldn't be able to be completely involved until June 12, which is when I'm officially free of these things.

Is there any way my goals could be pro-rated some how to account for the late start, but also keep me on even keel with everyone else? I would reeeeealy love to be a part of this. Any ideas or suggestions would be great!
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I absolutely love the idea of this challenge. I think it's just what I need to keep me going.

But...because of some extremely important committments I have right now that consume my time and energy, I wouldn't be able to be completely involved until June 12, which is when I'm officially free of these things.

Is there any way my goals could be pro-rated some how to account for the late start, but also keep me on even keel with everyone else? I would reeeeealy love to be a part of this. Any ideas or suggestions would be great!

Howzabout we just say "That poor Victoria; she's not making any progress; we should help her!." Then, starting June 12th we say "wow! Look at her go! We sure are great around here!"
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