How about a Challenge? - Page 2 - JP Fitness Forums

Leigh P. · 05-23-2007, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by James Newman

Also, it was suggested that we get a new name for it. What shall we call this little challenge (soon to become a JPF tradition)??

Newman

Maybe something that implies a fresh start or change, something to boost JP Fitness all the way around.

James Newman · 05-23-2007, 07:16 PM

Cool Cool Cool.. I think this is certainly something we need... hmm.... you saw my Egads Title.... I am not so good with naming things. But JP and I did a pretty good job coming up with Livin' Large...lol....

Thanks again Leigh...

MindPower · 05-23-2007, 07:30 PM

Hey guys, Im happy to join in as part of the challenge. As far as personal goals at the moment they are geared towards Strength primarily and weight gain secondly.
Before and After photos are a good idea, perhaps for the strength side of things it should be based on an increase in Strength Co-efficient as per the Deadlift and Squat charts. Weight lifted/ Bodyweight
Just some thoughts.

Mark

Leigh P. · 05-23-2007, 07:32 PM

Hmm well when in doubt you can always acronym.

JP Fitness R.E.B.O.R.N. Challenge : The Transformation Challenge for the JP Fitness Community.

Reach-Evolve-Begin-Obtain-Regain-Nurture

Can we tell I read to many scientific journals. Are you waiting for the Abstract of the Challenge?

James Newman · 05-23-2007, 07:36 PM

Sign gave us a summary of how things go. Now all we are doing is trying to design the parameters/ rules / definitions. It might be useful to define what compliance to a good nutrition plan would be or we can simply say it is compliance to whatever "your plan" is....

Scientific Journals are great. I was sitting in the Docs lounge today reading the New England Journal of Medicine...

Leigh P. · 05-23-2007, 07:43 PM

See in my docs office I go straight for the highlights magazine.

I ALWAYS FIND THE HIDDEN PICTURE!

Sign · 05-23-2007, 07:46 PM

In responce to the nutritional part, I don't think much is needed to define clean eating, I think by now we should all know what constitutes clean eating and what doesn't. It does all boil down personal accountability though. If someone has a chicken sandwich at Mc D's and then comes and counts that as part of his 1/2 block for clean eating we would never know, it is up to the person to be honourable and either admit a falter or simply not eat dirty.

I am still in the process of fine-tuning a scoring system that keeps everything fair. Stay tuned.

msmozrt · 05-23-2007, 08:14 PM

I'm in --

My diet buddy Sarah (Samba) and I have a personal "inches lost" challenge running from May-August so this would fit in perfectly and hold us accountable to all of you....

James Newman · 05-23-2007, 08:18 PM

Rowdy Awesome! You'll have to talk her into participating as well.

msmozrt · 05-23-2007, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by James Newman

Rowdy Awesome! You'll have to talk her into participating as well.

She's game for anything

SpacecityPaula · 05-23-2007, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leigh P.

Hmm well when in doubt you can always acronym.

JP Fitness R.E.B.O.R.N. Challenge : The Transformation Challenge for the JP Fitness Community.

Reach-Evolve-Begin-Obtain-Regain-Nurture

Can we tell I read to many scientific journals. Are you waiting for the Abstract of the Challenge?

hahahahahahaha

James Newman · 05-23-2007, 08:29 PM

when I saw REBORN, I honestly was remembering something about a psychological approach to dealing with attachment disorder....

James Newman · 05-23-2007, 08:55 PM

Here is what I am thinking for the Nutrition aspect of things. The idea is to eat healthy and eat in a manner that supports your goals whatever they may be. Develop or Select your nutrition plan and adhere to it 90% of the time. If you need help developing a plan, let us know and we can all put our heads together. Points/Blocks/Gold Stars or Hulahoops will be counted based on the 90% compliance criteria.

Does this seem reasonable?

What do you guys want to see in terms of Resistance Training (days per week/minutes, etc)

Do you want to include points for HIIT/Intervals/Cardio/Walking? Other physical activity?

I was also thinking to encourage local community participation, etc you could sign up to "compete" or participate in an event such as a Lymphoma walk, Race for the Cure, JingleBell run (in Summer??? lol), weight lifting meet, etc for extra points, etc....

Thoughts????????????

Lost Dog · 05-23-2007, 09:02 PM

Try to keep it simple. You don't want a computer program to figure the winner, do you?

If everyone's on the same diet or workout routine, then you can make compliance and progression part of it.

If it's a free-for-all, then body measurements, percent changes, and finishing according to your goals are good.

If it's about being part of a healthy lifestyle and making the most of things, then encouraging participation in a variety of events, walks, etc. is good.

When a buffet has lots of different foods, we over indulge, and sabotage ourselves. We need to focus of a simple menu.

Inspired · 05-23-2007, 10:47 PM

What if you split it into two groups, The most Gained and The Most Lost type of thing?
Giving freedom to the person to do whatever they want, however they want, to achieve their goals without setting any guidelines.

- Before and After Pics
- Measurements
- Percentages

I agree with Lost Dog, to many options seem to turn into a bad thing.

James Newman · 05-23-2007, 11:04 PM

Whether your goal is to gain muscle or lose fat, good nutrition is good nutrition. What I want is for people to develop or acquire a plan that will support that goal (think of the challenge as a mini goal setting workshop at many levels in and of itself). If they need help they can PM other members and ask questions or post it publicly and we can all help. The intent of the challenge is to help people define and achieve their goals in a certain time frame. In this case 61 days. Think of the SMART acronym for goal setting. I am pretty confident that nearly all will agree that adherence to your plan whatever it is is essential to achieving your goals. 80-90% in my experience achieves the best results. I want to see people get the best.

The Challenge has 3 Major Components at this time.

Nutrition, Training, and Personal Goal. You get credit for consistent nutrition and consistent training (two things most would agree are necessarily for health, wellness, and achiveving of personal goals) The first two areas tend to support the third - Personal Goal. Perhaps you want to gain weight. Perhaps you want to lose weight. Perhaps you want to lift a certain weight. Whatever it is, it doesn't matter.. it is yours. You get credit in some form yet to be determined for the achievment of that goal.

I also tossed out the the notion of participation in community events etc and types of training. I think these are important. Tell me what you think I think they add another simple dimension to things that would support goals and help us.

Bottom line. Set Goals, Develop a plan, Implement Plan, Evaluate, Get Results. Have fun in the process. Share as a community on a different level then we have been in awhile. Help your fellow forumite during the challenge.

Does this make any sense? Don't worry about prizes and scoring and things right now....that will come later... just consider the process and end results....

Newman

LisaS · 05-23-2007, 11:27 PM

nutrition plan/compliance, workout plan(s)/compliance, personal goal (wt /\ , wt \/, measurements /\ or \/, PR, whatever)
sounds like a good general challenge to me -