Dieting Disasters

[Lost Dog]

We've never really had our own place for dieting specific discussions. This was an excellent idea.

Our own Tony G has an article over at T-Nation, today.

Dieting Disasters, by Tony Gentilcore, CSCS, CPT.

As someone who dieted STRAIGHT for like 2 freakin' years (yeah. no breaks...), I'm wishing I'd had a bit of Tony's advice back then.

[James Newman]

This is a great article...thanks for posting it up here LD. I have trouble finding the time to make it over to T-Nation as much as I probably should....

Newman

[kingkop182]

great read - cheers for highlighting it LD

[Phaedrus49er]

Awesome article, thanks for posting. I once did a cyclical ketogenic diet (with limited weekend carb-ups) for upwards of nine months. Made great progress but did hit a wall at about six months. Whenever I go back on CKD, I make sure to fully enjoy the weekends--er, I mean, carb-up properly

[Michael Roussell]

T Gizzle had sent me that article to look over a couple weeks ago and I was blown away then and yesterday when I read it again...he gives a TON of great information (and he's not even a nutrition guy!)

[RacerBill]

Excellent!! Thanks, Roland.

[Cynic]

I was just reading that and planned to post it, but since you did...

[Espi]

Good read.. especially the part:
- if I lose 1 lbs on 500kcal deficit, then I should lose 3 lbs on a 1500 kcal deficit
- staying on a diet for too long.

The very best experiences I've had sofar were at the start of a ketodiet when I was waaaay overweight: 8 kg drop in 6 weeks. And now again, by switching between underfeeding by 1200 kcal one day and overfeeding by 0-1500 kcal another day, very similar to intermittent fasting.

[rgv]

kinda wish i had this information a year ago. Either way he makes a lot of good points that should not be ignored (such as the need to take a break from dieting, the problem with that however being the possible fall into old habits). So here is the million dollar question. if B1 receptors are the are the hormones (right word here?) that break down fat cells for fuel what then is the best way to build a diet/nutrition around boosting them as high as possible?

or maybe im missing something here. The way im reading it (and the way I've generally understood fat loss in the past) is that you mostly just empty the fat cell of the fat that it stored but cannot break down the actual cell. This article however seems to be indicating that indeed you CAN break down the cell? This right or is it really just the same thing explained in different words?

[Espi]

You can't break down the fat cell normally, though there are rumours that resveratrol can do this.

As for the receptors, those are for the adrenalin system (epinephrine/adrenaline). It's not too difficult to excite the B-receptors but harder to excite the A-type.
This is where yohimbine and the stubborn fat protocol comes in handy.

[rgv]

so it was really just saying the same thing in different words?

[Espi]

As for your question what's the best training? NROL is one method. It seems that any training that is very different to what you're used to, will boost the amount of 'good stress' (adrenalin output) you'll have.
There will always be the 'good same ole' compound' stuff at the base, but add interval work (and preferably a different type of cardio every time) and difficult 'stuff' to your workouts.

Same for dieting I guess.. just don't do the same ole' same ole' stuff every day.

[Tony Gentilcore]

Thanks for the kudos everyone.

Espi.....solid advice!

[Alcoholiday]

nice job tony!

[Warren S Smith]

Great point about the chronic dieting syndrome Tony. I fell victim of this the first time I was able to get lean. Its a common mistake to confuse the caloric # used to get you lean with the maintenance number you should use throughout the year. This mistake cost me a lot of gains for 2-3 years, another side-effect of FFB syndrome.

Great point on food-prep strategies. As far as i'm concerned thats the foundation.
"In doing so, it will take five minutes to pack your meals each day and you save time in the long run (rather than having to cook everyday). If the healthier options are available, you'll be less inclined to pack the cold pizza or Twinkies".

if I had a nickel for every time I've fought my clients over those 5 minutes, i wouldn't have to live in a van, down by the river!

Its great being part of this week's article with ya Tony.
Warren

[Tony Gentilcore]

Originally Posted by Warren S Smith

Great point about the chronic dieting syndrome Tony. I fell victim of this the first time I was able to get lean. Its a common mistake to confuse the caloric # used to get you lean with the maintenance number you should use throughout the year. This mistake cost me a lot of gains for 2-3 years, another side-effect of FFB syndrome.

Great point on food-prep strategies. As far as i'm concerned thats the foundation.
"In doing so, it will take five minutes to pack your meals each day and you save time in the long run (rather than having to cook everyday). If the healthier options are available, you'll be less inclined to pack the cold pizza or Twinkies".

if I had a nickel for every time I've fought my clients over those 5 minutes, i wouldn't have to live in a van, down by the river!

Its great being part of this week's article with ya Tony.
Warren

Warren G (my new nickname for you, and I'm sticking with it).

Thanks for the comments, and props to you for your insane "experiment". I was laughing at loud at the pics of you running through the snow looking as if you were going to pass out.

And yes, those 5 MINUTES are such a pain in the ass. It's amazing to me that people will make excuse after excuse to NOT prepare food ahead of time.

[John Izzo]

Tony,

REALLY AWESOME article! You hit every point on the head!