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Old 06-08-2005, 02:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The wife and I had a second visit to the chiro this morning. This is where they tell us all what is wrong with us (is there ever a time when nothing is wrong?). And of course it was dire bad news according to them. So they came up with this plan to fix us all up over the next year (90 visits). Great. However the cost, as you can guess, is what is getting us. I won't go into that as it's not the point of this.

Obviously no one knows, but the doctors, what's wrong with us, but is it necessary to go in for 90 adjustments over the next year? I feel great. The wife does have some issues here and there that perhaps could be solved by the chiro.

Thoughts and opinions on this?

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Old 06-08-2005, 02:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Stay away from these people like the plague. All they will do is transfer money from your wallet into theirs to the tune of quite a few nice pairs of Italian slacks and several dozen pairs of Italian shoes, not to mention the Porsche he just bought, leaving you basically at square one. Make note, real medicine doesn't need to sell itself like these guys do with their market themselves attitude, and what they call an "activator" -- and the pants you just bought them. Do you get a toaster after the 10th adjustment? Ninety adjustments? Go see a real doctor for what ails you.
 
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Old 06-12-2005, 10:58 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I've known people that have been told by chiros that the exact number of visits covered by their insurance is just what they need to cure what ever ailes them. I can only assume that these chiros are more concerned about their financial reward than their patient.

That being said, our family had just the reverse experience this year. My son, a college wrestler, was comlaining of severe back pain. He had been to the school's trainer and had gotten no relief. He was a a point where he couldn't defend himself in practice. The orthopedist he'd seen in the past for other injuries couldn't see him for almost a month. Mostly to feel like I'd done something to help I called a chiro who'd worked with some other members of his high school team in the past. He agreed to see him Christmas Eve morning. He did the usual x rays and showed me that my son's right leg was one inch shorter than his left. He the adjusted his neck, which he said had taken a beating over many years of wrestling and football. Surprisingly the legs were even after the neck adjustment. My son said he felt better almost immediately. The Doc showed him some exercises to do at school. He made one follow up appointment before he left to go back to school a few days later and has been great ever since.

The moral of this long story is to shop around and find someone you can trust. Not all members of any profession are the same. There are good, bad and excellent members of every group.
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Old 06-12-2005, 06:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The wife and I had a second visit to the chiro this morning. This is where they tell us all what is wrong with us (is there ever a time when nothing is wrong?). And of course it was dire bad news according to them. So they came up with this plan to fix us all up over the next year (90 visits). Great. However the cost, as you can guess, is what is getting us. I won't go into that as it's not the point of this.

Obviously no one knows, but the doctors, what's wrong with us, but is it necessary to go in for 90 adjustments over the next year? I feel great. The wife does have some issues here and there that perhaps could be solved by the chiro.

Thoughts and opinions on this?

Thanks,

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In a nutshell, if this guy is asking you for a prepay (e.g. $2500) for a year's worth of care, then I would run. This is a tactic that has to do with practice management (i.e. high patient volumes) and nothing to do with evidence based care. From what I can gather, there's no evidence for anything beyond 8-12 visitis to a Chiro for a particular ailment. So-called 'spinal correction' isn't supported by any serious evidence. The dire news is likely bogus in that it's really unlikely that there's a serious problem that could be fixed with 90 visits.

That being said, there are excellent Chiropractors who focus on the problem at hand and don't try to sell you long term care. Try to find one. Many Physical Therapists are also excellent at dealing with sports injuries, so that's another option. And I've never heard of PTs trying to sell long term care.

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That's too harsh. I have Chiro friends ( from my gym) who are quite good at handling sports injuries and who don't try to sell anyone long-term care.
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That's too harsh. I have Chiro friends ( from my gym) who are quite good at handling sports injuries and who don't try to sell anyone long-term care.
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That's too harsh. I have Chiro friends ( from my gym) who are quite good at handling sports injuries and who don't try to sell anyone long-term care.
Did you get a free toaster on your tenth visit? [/quote]No. These guys are on the up and up and I respect them.
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Old 06-14-2005, 12:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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C Dorr - do NOT see that Chiro again. Ask around and find somebody reputable. In his 20+ yrs of being a chiro I've never heard of my brother telling someone he needed that many adjustments - and he worked for years with guys on the Natl. rugby team who had back and neck problems like you wouldn't believe.
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