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Old 06-25-2009, 05:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default moderate shoulder injury - possible supraspinatus?

1. When did the pain begin?
About 1.5 weeks ago

2. What were you doing at the time? Or did the pain come on gradually over time?
Gradually over time. I suspect it was a heavier than normal dumbell bench press that caused it, but no sudden pain or injury during the exercise

3. Where, anatomically, is the pain?
on the top of the shoulder, on the shoulder seam of a T shirt. towards the outside of the deltoid cap.

4. What does the pain feel like? Sharp? Dull? Aching? Stabbing? Shooting?
aching and sharp upon certain movements

5. Is the pain constant, or intermittent, or only on certain motions?
worse if i actually use the shoulder and better on rest.
hurts somehwat to press in hard with my finger on a very small area-a sharp pain.

6. What motions make your pain worse?
Hurts to move my arm diagonally up and outside (full flexion&abduction)

7. What, if anything, makes your pain better?
total rest

8. Does your pain radiate to any other part of your body?
no

9. What things could you do before, that you cannot do now because of your injury?
pullups, bench press and other strain on the shoulder

10. What is your main concern regarding the pain and its consequences?
the length of time it will take to heal and leave me unable to train. Additionally, will it simply heal itself if I rest or do i need special treatment...its already been nearly 2 weeks

11. Have you ever injured that part of your body before? If so, how?
no

12. Is your pain getting worse over time? And if so, how much worse over what time period?
no - only worse if i use the shoulder

additional info:

Empty can (tinny) test: Hold your arm out straight in front of you with the thumb facing downwards. Raise and lower the arm (as if emptying a can!). Pain indicates injury to the Supraspinatus muscle or tendon.

hurts quite a lot!



Neer's Test: With your arm straight out in front and the thumb pointing downwards the practitioner with passively raise your arm above your head (if it will go this far pain free!). A positive test indicates an rotator cuff impingement.
full range and hardly any pain

Hawkin's Test: This is a more sensitive test for impingement than Neer's test. The practitioner will place the arm at 90 degrees of flexion and internal rotation (thumb pointing downwards) and then bend the elbow. They may then get you to push your arm upwards against resistance.
hurts

Gerber's Lift-off Test: Place the back of you hand on the lower back. Try to then lift the hand off the lower back Pain and difficulty in this movement indicates a tear of the subscapularis muscle. No pain but a complete lack in movement indicates a complete rupture.
no problems doing this

Drop-Arm Test: Fully abduct your arm so that you lift it out to the side and above the head. Then slowly and with a controlled motion return it back to your side. Difficulty in producing a smooth movement (with the arm 'dropping' back to the side) and pain on returning the arm back to the side indicate Supraspinatus muscle injury.
no problems

Apprehension Test: The practitioner ask you to lay down and will passively abduct your arm to 90 degrees with the elbow bent. They will then externally rotate the shoulder. The apprehension test is positive if this feels uncomfortable or as if the shoulder will pop out of the socket. Anyone who has recently had an anterior dislocation of the shoulder joint or has anterior instability will find this position uncomfortable.
difficult to do on my own but seems fine when passively rotating my arm out against a wall

Crank Test: The arm is abducted to 90 degrees with the elbow also bent to 90. The practitioner pushes on the elbow, pushing the humeral head further into the joint whilst rotating the shoulder. A positive test is painful and indicates glenoid labrum injury.
hard to do properly but seems fine

Yergasons Test: With the elbow bent to approximately 90 degrees and the palm facing down the practitioner applies resistance as the patient turns the palm over and bends the elbow at the same time. Pain indicates tendonitis of the long head of biceps.
no probs
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Old 06-25-2009, 09:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Thanks for the additional info on the specific shoulder tests. I would have said before reading them that you likely have a RTC strain. And my best guess still holds after the additional tests.
Rest it. (No pressing until it is painfree)
Ice it.
Roll it. Get a tennis ball or lacrosse ball in a sock and roll the back of the shoulderblade against a wall.

When it is painfree, get a band and do isolated internal and external rotations. Work up to PNF diagonal patterns. And focus a lot of your workout program on lower trap strengthening.

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a question: theres a point where it hurts to physically touch it on top of my shoulder....would it be good or bad to rub/massage this sore area?
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As long as it's not a spot you've been rubbing (because those need a break ... 15-20 rubs on a sore spot, then no more for 24-48 hours) or over a bony prominence (like right over your AC joint) go ahead and rub it.
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Old 07-14-2009, 08:19 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Hi,

it has now been about a month and the injury is still nagging me, so now Im concerned/frustrated.

It is definitely better than it was, but it still feels achey all the time, and still hurts a bit when fully flexed and abducted (moved to top outside corner), but the pain is tolerable.

Shouldnt this have healed by now? I have rested it (meaning no weights, but I have picked up shopping bags, opened doors etc), used a heat pack once a day, and ibuprofen if it gets really bad. I foam/tennis rolled the back of the shoulder blade a few times but not regularly.

Should I give it another week of rest? try a particular therapy? Or does it need some resistance work?
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Freeze some water in Dixie cups, tear the top part off about an inch. Use this to massage the sore area. Repeat 2 to 3 times a day.

May be a simple case of severe tendonitis, the only cure for this is rest.
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I have been applying heat - hot showers or sauna am and a heat pack for 10 minutes pm.

i thought it was ice on injury and heat after that.

I'll try the ice massage.
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