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Old 09-06-2008, 06:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Toe problem, pictures and video included.

I will post what I asked on another forum, hopefully I will find people with similar problems here.

The problem with the toe is that it feels like there's no cartilage in place when it's cold and that there's a grinding feeling when I move. It also only flares up after a long workout and hasn't really hampered my workouts. What could be up?
The pain is not really getting worse, it's been the same for a couple of years... I think it has actually gotten better, it used to hurt a bit more last year, but still.

Also, here is a picture of the joints in question, as you can see I am not talking about the toe base, its right at the middle joint of it.
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Other than the toe, I think I have high arches (by looking at the pressure marks) and pronated feet, what do you think ?

Any help would be welcome.
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Sorry, can you embed the images ... when I clicked on the first one it tried to install spyware on my computer.
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Old 09-10-2008, 02:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Spyware ? it's only imageshack, are you sure ?
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Old 09-10-2008, 07:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Uh ... yea ... try embedding the pictures if you want me to look at them.
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Old 09-10-2008, 10:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
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When I click on them, all sorts of weird things pop up. But, I'm kinda stoked, cuz it says some girls have crushes on me!
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Old 09-11-2008, 06:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Here is an archive file with the pics .. there shouldn't be any problems with this website:
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Another thing that you should know is that some doctor told me I have Flexible Flat Feet that may be causing the toe pain

In medical terms these are the joints that hurt if it means anything, it doesn't to me :
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Old 09-11-2008, 06:48 PM   #7 (permalink)
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why don't you just embed the pics - just get the URL of the actual photo on your clipboard, open a reply here, click the picture icon (looks like a mountain & a sun) and past in the URL. Repeat for each photo. That way no one has to go offsite to who-knows-where
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Yea, sorry Silencer ... I am happy to look, but you need to embed the photos ... I've had computer problems this summer and finally have my laptop back working properly ... not really interested in another crash!!

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You have to host them somewere that offers direct urls for linking. Then, take the url of the image and paste it into the box that pops up with you click on the button on the toolbar.

You can also attach a file by clicking the "manage attachments" button down below. That's safe, too.
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OK ... so which foot hurts? And what are your symptoms? It might help to read the sticky at the top of the subforum ...
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My right big toe hurts, and my left 2nd toe.
I am talking about the IP joint, not the toe base.. 1 notch higher.

It has been like that for 2 years now... Doesn't bother my training usually, only after repetitive reps of 200m runs and such.
There is a grinding feeling on the right big toe, and plain pain on the left 2nd toe.

no swelling as you can see, but the left 2nd toe is deformed a little, xray showed no fracture however.

My right achillies also SOMETIMES hurts, but it's only because my calves can get tight after hard training weeks.

Orthopedic doctor told me I have flexible flat feet and that may place stress on the toe, but he wasn't sure.
He also suggested to shoot steroids in my joint.. I told him to hold it until I do more rsearch


That's pretty much it, really. Anything is welcome, thanks
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Could be some arthritis in those joints from the flat feet. If you have flexible flat feet, there is more stress placed on those joints during heel rise through foot flat and toe off.
You probably need orthotics.
It might help to strengthen the posterior tibialis, glutes, and hamstrings.
Stretch the calves.

But if I were you, I would find and see a good podiatrist.
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Oh, thanks ! I didn't know that I had extra force on these toes at heel raise.

I booked an appointment, hopefully he will be able to take care of me

Thanks Julie ! Appreciate the help
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From what I can see of your pictures, I'm not sure you actually have flat feet. I have flexible flat feet (darn genetics), which means while standing i have no arch whatsoever, but when I flex my foot, it forms a rather nice arch. Looking at your pictures, I can see an arch while you are standing and baring weight, granted, it's small, but there's an arch. In a previous post you stated that you had high arches and flat feet, you can't have both . It's one or the other. If you have high arches you underpronate, which means most of your weight is going toward the outside of your foot (not ideal). When you have flat arches/feet you overpronate, which means most of your weight is going toward the inside of your foot (also not ideal). Both conditions put too much strain on your ankle joints, knees, hips, and lower back. Overpronation also causes you to push-off from your big toe while walking, which causes huge, painful calluses to develop.

You probably will benefit greatly from orthotics, most people do. They certainly have helped me a great deal. They have greatly improved my balance during lifting.

The pain you are experiencing in your toe sounds like arthritis, and the podiatrist will be able to help with that as well.
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Thanks for sharing your experience, I am going to get my orthotics today I hope the man knew what he was doing.. when I said I needed it for sprints he was like " well I don't know about sprints, but i will read a book for you before i make your inserts, i promise "

that tells me that 2 stores can make me different inserts.

I will just take what he gives me to the podiatrist then to confirm it's good.
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