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Old 05-31-2006, 06:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Still flossing and still stretching. It's really hard to remember to stretch every 15 minutes. I do it as often as I can.

I've noticed quite a bit of improvement in the numbness in my hands, so I'm very pleased.

Lately, my forearms are just plain sore. All the time. Not enough to stop me from doing anything, but sore enough to always notice it.

When my arm is fully extended, my brachioradialis is very sore up at it's thickest part. Up near the elbow.

Also, on the outer/underside of my forearm at the elbow. Little knobby area that you hit on every door and doorknob that you pass (just because it hurts!).

Is this constant soreness "normal" with this constant stretching? Is my stretching too agressive?

Despite the constant pain that your advice has put me in, I'm very pleased with the results, so far. While my grip doesn't seem that much stronger, per se, it is now less prone to giving out suddenly.

Thanks,

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I would relax with the stretching. The ligaments of the wrist (palmar proximalis) can be overly stretched (like a shoulder capsule). I suggest you see a massage therapist and have him/her work on your forearms. Sounds silly...but I suffered the same thing about a year ago until I met a massage therapist and she beat the piss out of my foreamrns with deep tissue massage.She worked on them for about 15-20minutes 2 days a week. I have not had any forearm factors come up since.
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Old 05-31-2006, 06:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I would relax with the stretching. The ligaments of the wrist (palmar proximalis) can be overly stretched (like a shoulder capsule). I suggest you see a massage therapist and have him/her work on your forearms. Sounds silly...but I suffered the same thing about a year ago until I met a massage therapist and she beat the piss out of my foreamrns with deep tissue massage.She worked on them for about 15-20minutes 2 days a week. I have not had any forearm factors come up since.
Thanks. I think a massage will certainly help. When I saw Bill a few months back, the massage part felt great (and terrible).

The reason for all the stretching is because of a diagnosis of carpal tunnel and ulnar nueropathy. The standard medical stuff wasn't helping and I didn't want to jump into surgery.

Good thing, too (I think). I've come a long way with the daily flossing and the stretching. I'm with you that maybe it's now too much. Not sure.

I forgot to mention a few other things... Now that my grip's better and some of my hip mobility has "opened" up, I'm back to deadlifting. My former self would max out at about 250. Now, I'm up to 325. Plus, I can shrug and row a lot more now. So, my grip's getting quite a bit more stimulus lately, too.

Most of the numbness is gone, just sore...
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Complain, Complain, Complain...

Numbness decreased and almost gone, grip improved, deadlift over 300?

Not too shabby my friend. Well done.

Regular soft tissue work is never a bad idea. don't go to your run-of-the-mill-just-passed-my-certification-and-hung-my-sign massage therapist. Find someone whose trained in something along the lines of Rolfing or tool based soft-tissue work. there's a very common adhesion between the brachialis and brachioradialis that may be bugging you.

Keep flossing!!

If you back off on the stretching, monitor your symptoms closely and resume the frequency if you backslide.

Also keep in mind that if you're rowing more, deadlifting more, and shrugging more, the muscle of the forearm are being trained more intensely and more frequently. If you haven't been doing so for a while, that may be contributing to your soreness in addition to all your daily activities. You have to consider everything when you're addressing such a complaint.

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Old 06-01-2006, 12:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks, Bill!

I'll check into a non-run-of-the-mill-just-passed-my-certification-and-hung-my-sign massage therapist. Will they be listed under that in the yellow pages?

Kinda hard to foam roll your forearms, eh? Too bad.

Thanks again,

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Numbness decreased and almost gone, grip improved, deadlift over 300?

Not too shabby my friend. Well done.

Regular soft tissue work is never a bad idea. don't go to your run-of-the-mill-just-passed-my-certification-and-hung-my-sign massage therapist. Find someone whose trained in something along the lines of Rolfing or tool based soft-tissue work. there's a very common adhesion between the brachialis and brachioradialis that may be bugging you.

Keep flossing!!

If you back off on the stretching, monitor your symptoms closely and resume the frequency if you backslide.

Also keep in mind that if you're rowing more, deadlifting more, and shrugging more, the muscle of the forearm are being trained more intensely and more frequently. If you haven't been doing so for a while, that may be contributing to your soreness in addition to all your daily activities. You have to consider everything when you're addressing such a complaint.

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Thanks, Bill!

I'll check into a non-run-of-the-mill-just-passed-my-certification-and-hung-my-sign massage therapist. Will they be listed under that in the yellow pages?

Kinda hard to foam roll your forearms, eh? Too bad.

Thanks again,

Roland
Actually you can use a tennis ball or the equivalent. Even better. Oil up the forearm and drag a flat-edged utensil (the edge of long spoon handle) over the muscle to tolerance. Make sure you drag it toward the heart and use light pressure to start. Do a minute or so on each "tight" area. Too aggressive and you will bruise. It will relieve the tight feeling rather quickly.

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Only in a Bill's fitness forum can you give advice to oil something up and work it with a spatula and have it make perfect sense.
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