JP Fitness Forums powered by fitness insite  
Google
 
Web forums.jpfitness.com

Go Back   JP Fitness Forums > Fitness > Training Discussion > Fitness FAQ
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Fitness FAQ Your fitness questions may already be answered... Read these first! For questions NOT answered here please post in the TRAINING discussion.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-11-2002, 10:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
I think, therefore I post
 
Jean-Paul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Little Rock, AR
Posts: 15,086
Lightbulb

A recent study examining the effects of combined strength and low intensity aerobic training showed that strength and aerobic fitness can be improved simultaneously. The study was divided into three groups of subjects: strength training only, combined endurance and strength training, and endurance training only. The strength group performed 8 weight training exercises 3x/week, the combined group performed strength and low intensity aerobic training 3x/week and the endurance group performed low intensity aerobic exercise 3x/week. Results of this study indicated that the strength and combined groups made equal gains in strength and bodyfat loss, while the strength group made a larger increase in aerobic fitness. The endurance training group made improvements in aerobic fitness and no significant improvements in muscular strength. Results from this study show that one should not neglect aerobic training if they are training to increase lean muscle mass and muscular strength. This applies especially to individuals in an off-season training program or those that are training for increased health and overall fitness with know specific sports performance goals. Endurance athletes and aerobics fanatics should also take note of this study and consider adding a weight training program to their aerobic training since their fat loss and aerobic fitness will not be impaired and in fact will most likely be improved. Strength training also help build lean muscle mass which aerobics do not and help prevent injuries. If an athlete is training for a peak in a power and anaerobic sport(football, weightlifting, soccer, etc.), they should taper this low intensity aerobic training prior to preseason training and instead train the energy systems their sport demands. Reference: McCarthy JP; Agre JC; Graf BK; Pozniak MA; Vailas AC Compatibility of adaptive responses with combining strength and endurance training. Med Sci Sports Exerc, 27: 3, 1995 Mar, 429-36
__________________
Jean-Paul is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2004, 09:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Little Rock
Posts: 193
Post

Bill Hartman suggested that I not do cardio and strength training on the same day. Do you agree with this suggestion? If so would it be a good idea to do cardio in the A.M. and weights in the P.M. on the same day? Just looking to make the most of my time. To give you an idea, I'm 5'7'' 214 lbs. I bulk up easily but it take a lot of work for me to drop fat. If you could, please let me know what you think is the best route to adding muscle while burning fat. I know diet is huge.
__________________
\"Many of life\'s failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up... \"
- Thomas Edison
Pitbull is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2004, 08:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
Bill Hartman Certified
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 2,177
Post

Ideally, you want to put exercise involving significantly different energy systems as far apart as possible.

For every form of activity there is a fitness effect and a fatigue effect. The fatigue effects of some forms of exercise will reduce the effectiveness of others.

In regard to different energy systems:
Best case...alternate days
Next best case...at least 6 hours apart
Next best case...long-term energy systems after short-term energy systems in the same workout.

Strength trainging = short-term

Bill
Bill Hartman is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2004, 09:29 AM   #4 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Miami
Posts: 322
Post

Quote:
Originally posted by Bill Hartman:
Ideally, you want to put exercise involving significantly different energy systems as far apart as possible.

For every form of activity there is a fitness effect and a fatigue effect. The fatigue effects of some forms of exercise will reduce the effectiveness of others.

In regard to different energy systems:
Best case...alternate days
Next best case...at least 6 hours apart
Next best case...long-term energy systems after short-term energy systems in the same workout.

Strength trainging = short-term

Bill
Speaking from experience this is very very true.
poopy pants is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2004, 12:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
FishrCutB8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Philly on one side, Pittsburgh on another, the Green Between...
Posts: 5,853
Post

Yes, but will it give me ript abz by next week? Big PARTAY!
__________________
DFL>DNF>DNS ™

The Fish Blog

The Fish Training Log

...and for God's sake, get a decent pair of shoes!
FishrCutB8 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 05-03-2005, 05:44 AM   #6 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 18
Post

Thanks for the tip. I'd like to combine strength and cardio training and I've been told that it's hard to do both - better to choose one or the other at a time. But this study seems to show it's not true.

Is there any reason as a beginner NOT to do weights and cardio 3x a week each?
oravita is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2005, 05:23 AM   #7 (permalink)
Turbulent Trainer
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Toronto
Posts: 780
Post

>Is there any reason as a beginner NOT to do weights and cardio 3x a week each?

***Not really, no. Go ahead and train both on the same day if you want.
__________________
Craig Ballantyne, CSCS, M.Sc.
Turbulence Training
Daily Articles & My Workouts
Craig is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2005, 06:48 AM   #8 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 18
Post

Quote:
***Not really, no. Go ahead and train both on the same day if you want.
Glad to hear it, I'll go right ahead, except ...

Only thing is, my body is in need of some "breaking in!" I had a go of one of those cross training cardio DVDs and I'm still a bit sore after that! Looks like I'll have to ease into this ...
oravita is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2005, 07:47 AM   #9 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 6
Post

would jump roping 10-15 minutes on off days be "okay?"
ClemsonBob is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2005, 04:07 PM   #10 (permalink)
Master of my domain
 
Chris Correia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Duluth, Minnesota
Posts: 4,418
Post

I think so; I do it pretty regularly. I also often use 3-4 minutes as the first part of my pre-lifting warmup; it helps to get things heated up quickly. If you're new to it, however, I'd ease into it. If you do 15 minutes right off, you may feel it the next day or two in unpleasant ways.

Make sure you jump/skip on a padded surface or a surface with some "give", and do small jumps on the balls of your feet, trying to land softly.

You might find you will do intervals (a minute or two, and 30 sec or a minute rest) until you build up to 10 mins or more of continuous skipping.

You can also try 2-3 minutes of skipping, and then some other activity, like 10 pushups and 10 situps, or some stretching, and then repeat that cycle 5 times. Be creative and have fun with it.
__________________
There are no shortcuts.

www.duluthmartialarts.com

Facebook: Chris Correia
Chris Correia is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:03 AM.

Features ...
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Ad Management by RedTyger