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Old 03-14-2006, 02:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Help: Finding list of exercises by plane of movement

Hi all,

Does anyone know where I can find a list of exercises sorted by their plane of movement (horizontal/vertical)?
I checked ExRx, but am looking for something easier to get the info from.

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Old 03-14-2006, 10:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Here's what I got. If anyone has corrections, please post. Thanks.
Shoulders


Barbell behind neck press
Vertical push

Barbell Military Press
Vertical push

Barbell Shoulder Press
Vertical push

Barbell Upright Row
Vertical pull

Barbell Rear Delt Row
Vertical pull


Triceps

Tricep Dip
Vertical push

Close Grip Bench Press
Horizontal push


Back

Cambered Bar Lying Row
Horizontal pull

Barbell Bent Over Row
Horizontal pull

Seated Cable Row
Horizontal pull

Seated Cable High Row
Horizontal pull


Lats

Close Grip Cable Pulldown
Vertical pull

Front Cable Pulldown
Vertical pull

Rear Cable Pulldown
Vertical pull

Underhand Cable Pulldown
Vertical pull

Chin up
Vertical pull

Close Grip Chin Up
Vertical pull

Pull Up
Vertical pull

Rear Pull Up
Vertical pull


Chest

Chest Dip
Vertical push

Barbell Bench Press
Horizontal push

Push Up
Vertical push

Incline Barbell Bench Press
Vertical push


Abdominals

Hanging Leg Hip Raise
Vertical pull


Lower Back

Barbell Hyperextension
Vertical pull

Deadlift
Vertical pull


Hips/Thighs

Barbell Full Squat
Vertical push

Barbell Front Squat
Vertical push

Barbell Lunge
Vertical push
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Old 03-15-2006, 08:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Wow, thanks for the list McCarley.
I appreciate the help.
I'm starting to get the idea of what qualifies as vertical/horizontal plane movements.
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Old 03-17-2006, 01:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Are we sure Push Ups would be a VERTICAL push?
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Old 03-17-2006, 11:06 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Actaully, I think it would be a horizontal.
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Phew, just when i thought I understand movement by planes.
Excellent list by the way McCarley, extremely helpful!
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Old 03-17-2006, 04:07 PM   #7 (permalink)
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EXERCISE GROUPINGS
1. Horizontal Pushes: Upper-body exercises in which you move the weight away from your torso horizontally. (Imagine your torso is upright.) Exercises: Any bench press or chest fly; dips

2. Horizontal Pulls: Upper-body exercises that require you to move the weight toward your torso horizontally
Exercises: Any bent-over or seated row; dumbbell or machine reverse flys

3. Vertical Pushes: Upper-body exercises in which you move the weight vertically in relation to your torso
Exercises: Any type of shoulder press; lateral or front raise; upright row

4. Vertical Pulls: Upper-body exercises that require you to move the weight in a downward direction in relation to your upright torso
Exercises: Any pullup, pulldown, or pullover

5. Quad-dominants: Exercises in which your quadriceps are the primary mover
Exercises: Any squat, lunge, or leg extension

6. Hip-dominants: Exercises in which your hamstrings and glutes are the primary movers
Exercises: Any type of deadlift or leg curl
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Old 03-24-2006, 05:03 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Yes, I see that last list has dips as horizontal push. That would be correct. I seems like a vertical push, but it's really comparable to a benching movement.
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Old 09-01-2006, 10:29 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Hi all,
Sorry to ressurect an old thread, but I was searching the internet and this is what I found. I am still confused because I just read an article which places dips in vertical push because the definition they use is : "upper body exercises wherein you move the resistance overhead or in a vertical pattern beneath you." It goes on to further state that "you may work many of the same muscles as you do in a horizontal push, they are recruited very differently due to the different angle."

I really want to understand the exercises in relation to planes of movement. It just makes more sense to me to put dips on a vertical push day because you are pushing with your body up and down (away from the body vertically), not in and out (away from the body horizontally). Does this make any sense?

Can someone help me? Even if I'm completely wrong, I want to know so I better understand the entire principal as this method is new to me and so far it has been pretty difficult to find information on it.

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Old 09-01-2006, 11:38 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I usually think of a dip as a vertical push, but you will see it both ways depending on who's writing the article. Your body posture during the lift can vary somewhat depending on how you're using the movement and that may be why you can find it listed both ways.
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Old 09-01-2006, 12:57 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I usually think of a dip as a vertical push, but you will see it both ways depending on who's writing the article. Your body posture during the lift can vary somewhat depending on how you're using the movement and that may be why you can find it listed both ways.
I concur. Dips can be performed in a leaning forward, "bent over" fashion, which will make them more of a horizontal push since the direction of the push is relatively perpendicular to the torso, and in a fairly upright posture, making the push direction more nearly parallel to the torso and hence a vertical push.
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Old 09-01-2006, 01:14 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Oh, ok, now I get it. You are absolutely right it could go both ways depending on the angle the person is at. Thanks for the clarification!
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Old 12-27-2007, 06:47 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Can anyone put these exercises in order by the three planes of movement? I know this is also important too, to train each movement in all 3 planes.


I am looking for movements in all 3 planes for these exercises below:
Single Leg Squat/Single Leg RDL, Squat/Deadlift/RDL (2 legs), Bench Press/Push Ups/Horizontal Pushs, Inverted Row/Bent Over Row/Seated Row/Horizontal Pulls, Pull Ups/Lat Pulldowns (machine)/Vertical Pulls, Shoulder Press/Push Press/Vertical Pushs, and Core exercises to target the movements for the whole core.

I am having trouble figuring out how to perform all 3 movements for these exercises.

Frontal Plane (Flexion/Extension or Forward/Backward) -
Sagital Plane (Abduction/Adduction or Side to Side) -
Transverse Plane (Rotation or External/Internal Rotation) -

I know all 3 plane of movements for Lunges and Step Ups. That's about it. I also know the Cable Push Pull if there's access to one that fills the Horizontal Push/Pull movement area.


Instead of making a new thread, I decided to ask in here because it talks about the plane of movements.
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