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Old 06-09-2008, 07:42 PM   #511 (permalink)
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A/c was fixed at karate - thank goodness!!! Still a good sweaty workout, and I'm tired...

I'm right-on for food now (1730-ish kcal) but kinda want to eat a bit more. I'm going back and forth between "well, I lifted AND did karate so I can eat" and "deficit - DEFICIT!!!!"... not sure where I'll land, but DH isn't helping - he's crunching loudly AGAIN.

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Awwww....cute little doggies! We are pretty much all around animal lovers...I've had everything from cats, dogs, mice, frogs, veiled chameleons, toads, fish...the list goes on..........

I love the little napping spot...it looks comfy right about now actually...lol!
I'm thinking the nap spot looks good too - he's snoozin' there right now... oh wait no, now he's up and begging for a bite of DH's snack...

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Your workout looks great! Nice job on all the increases

Love the puppy pics. We have a dog and a cat, but the cat is sooo not mine - she was part of the packaged deal with my husband She's ok every once in awhile, but since I'm allergic she just looooves me
LOL - we have cat allergies here too... and I guess I just never got the point of a pet that you have to win over. I work hard enough for everything in life - I like that a dog loves you no matter what, and is SO excited to see you whenever you get home . But hey - I love all animals (except bees!) so nothin' against cats - just not my style.

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SS Cardio for the hungries. Go for a walk or a nice easy and slow jog or bike ride. Work up just a tiny bit of a sweat but don't work too hard. Hunger goes away for hours that way.

Nice plank btw!
Thanks - planks SUCK!
I considered a walk, but it was 95 degrees and muggy out... did go to karate though, so that got me off the couch.

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Bytsi, cute puppies!!

Wow, what a workout! You are so strong...I am continually amazed at your power hamster-ness.
Power-hamster-ness LOL! I love it!

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hey Bytsi
just catching up.....goood for you on the m&m's! It is a good feeling when you don't crave the crap anymore!

I am glad you logged about salt because I had a few nights (about a month ago) where I was feeling weird and my hands were actually hurting from being swollen and I didn't understand it at all....now I think I have my culprit....SALT! UGH! I will have to watch that from now on.
I still kinda crave the m&m's and DEFINITELY still want chocolate and treats... just weird that now they didn't taste as good when I ate 'em. But dark chocolate? YUM!!!!

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Bytsi,
nice work on the workout--you really are strong! And I started a post last night about the dogs--they're SO cute! I love dogs and really miss having them (my kids and I are all allergic...)

Good luck at karate, I REALLY hope you have some a/c...
Thanks for the puppy compliment (and strength ) -- I was SO glad when I walked in and there was a/c. Been through too many hot hot hot hot classes (especially before we moved to the new school building in May). A few summers ago it was easily 100 INSIDE the karate room we were using .

Gonna go check out snackies that won't derail me... maybe a little cheese or something...
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Old 06-09-2008, 08:24 PM   #512 (permalink)
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I guess I just never got the point of a pet that you have to win over. I work hard enough for everything in life - I like that a dog loves you no matter what, and is SO excited to see you whenever you get home.
Ah, but when a cat loves you it means you're special.

We have two. One is friendly to pretty much everyone. The other is quite shy and most people don't know we have them. We were away last winter (not the one that just past, a year before) for 5 months. The housesitter (neighbour's daughter) sent me an email about a month after we'd left... the shy one let her pet him. She was so happy. See, his plot to rule the world is working. People feel special when he allows them to pet him (even my mother who isn't a cat person).
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Old 06-09-2008, 08:54 PM   #513 (permalink)
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Ah, but when a cat loves you it means you're special.

We have two. One is friendly to pretty much everyone. The other is quite shy and most people don't know we have them. We were away last winter (not the one that just past, a year before) for 5 months. The housesitter (neighbour's daughter) sent me an email about a month after we'd left... the shy one let her pet him. She was so happy. See, his plot to rule the world is working. People feel special when he allows them to pet him (even my mother who isn't a cat person).
It took nine months of my husband and me dataing (6 months dating and 3 of living together) before the cat would deign to sit on my lap. Then on New years day she popped up into my lap with no warning, layed down and pretty much never got up again. Now I can't get rid of her. At one point I was never allowed to be in the bathroom without her. I'm glad we grew out of that one!
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Old 06-11-2008, 04:30 PM   #514 (permalink)
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The forum's back - YAY!!!!!!!!
I was in withdrawal, all shaky and pathetic - Getting my fix now - WHEW!!

And I needed you guys so badly... the scale is being mean and I was really feeling down and needed a pep talk or smack or something... Seems like ever since Saturday night's unintentional refeed (so THAT's what I'm calling it now ) I haven't recovered on the scale. My lovely weight-loss chart isn't so pretty now. My total weight-loss is now barely 1# instead of the 3# it was before... AF is gone (for the month, at least) and you'd think the damn sodium would be gone. So WTF!?!?!? Eats have been ok - in fact pretty darn good (not perfect, but logged every bite and not bad). I'm trying to give it tomorrow to be down again (maybe that was just a TON of salt over the weekend?), but... crap. One bad meal shouldn't make THIS big a difference. Especially because it wasn't THAT bad a meal.

Yesterday - SS cardio for 25 min on stairmaster, HR 75-80%. Mediocre on the NEAT (too much work to do, but I'm doing it on a bouncy-ball instead of a chair). Was SO hungry last night, so took the pup on a 40 minute walk to try to avoid munching...

Today's workout: Stage 4 B4

Wide-grip DL from step
-- 2x8 @ 145#, 1x8 @ 155#

Bulgarian Split-squat -- 3x8 @ 35#s (2x17.5#s).

Underhand grip lat pulldown -- 3x8 @ 130#

Prone Cuban Snatch -- 3x8 w/ 12.5# db's.

Rear lunge off step w/ forward reach -- 3x8 w/ 20# db's.

Ball crunch, reverse crunch, side flexion -- 2x10 each, supersetted.

Prone Cobra -- OOPS! I forgot 'em AGAIN

Karate later if I find the energy to go. It's hot out and I walked a little bit after my workout and got a bit of sun...
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I think it's time for a lifting break week. Not gonna do any extra stage 4 workouts since I was only sick for one workout and I still did it... just been feeling sore and a bit tired. Plan is 1 week of no lifting and no HIIT. Just some SS and of course karate class. Maybe even an extra rest day or 2 or 3... I'll pick up the lifting again either Weds or Fri of next week. I'll start stage 5, but if I hate it I reserve the right to not finish it.

Food today has been good. Planned better, have 430 kcal left for the evening...

SO glad that the forum is back!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 06-11-2008, 06:15 PM   #515 (permalink)
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Seems like ever since Saturday night's unintentional refeed (so THAT's what I'm calling it now ) I haven't recovered on the scale.
Just for comparison, I had two really bad days (Dec. 31st, Jan 4th) where I was over by no more than 3500 calories. I went up 5 lbs by the 5th and it was Jan 12th before I was back to where I was on the 31st. So the best thing I can say is keep to plan and don't worry about the readjustment. I know, easier said than done.
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Old 06-11-2008, 06:50 PM   #516 (permalink)
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The forum's back - YAY!!!!!!!!
I was in withdrawal, all shaky and pathetic - Getting my fix now - WHEW!!
I know what you mean!!! Pretty sad, aren't we?!

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And I needed you guys so badly... the scale is being mean and I was really feeling down and needed a pep talk or smack or something... !!!!!!
I'm sorry you're feeling discouraged--don't give up! My body seems to do the same weird thing that yours is doing now, losing right along and then all of a sudden if I make a mistake, WHAM, there come a couple pounds! I think it's that trending thing again, meaning the low (for me) is a little unrealistic, so the gain from the "mistake" seems ridiculous. Hopefully you'll even out somewhere in between. Or just keep losing on the good track that you've been on and not worry about it!
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Old 06-11-2008, 07:01 PM   #517 (permalink)
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The forum's back - YAY!!!!!!!!
I was in withdrawal, all shaky and pathetic - Getting my fix now - WHEW!!
Me too!!! I kept going to the forum...and it was making me sad that it said I was "forbidden" before the message from JP.

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Underhand grip lat pulldown -- 3x8 @ 130#
Ok....this freaked me out...130?! Some really nice numbers in there in this workout! Makes me wanna work harder...

Don't be upset about the lbs...maybe it's just the salt!! You're doing so well...and as long as it doesn't go the other way...you've still LOST that 1#!!!
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Old 06-11-2008, 07:39 PM   #518 (permalink)
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Just for comparison, I had two really bad days (Dec. 31st, Jan 4th) where I was over by no more than 3500 calories. I went up 5 lbs by the 5th and it was Jan 12th before I was back to where I was on the 31st. So the best thing I can say is keep to plan and don't worry about the readjustment. I know, easier said than done.
Thanks Anne... it's just SO hard to understand how a couple hundred (MAYBE 1000 at most) kcals can do this to the scale. I know some is water / salt / hormonal crap, but... c'mon!

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I'm sorry you're feeling discouraged--don't give up! My body seems to do the same weird thing that yours is doing now, losing right along and then all of a sudden if I make a mistake, WHAM, there come a couple pounds! I think it's that trending thing again, meaning the low (for me) is a little unrealistic, so the gain from the "mistake" seems ridiculous. Hopefully you'll even out somewhere in between. Or just keep losing on the good track that you've been on and not worry about it!
I'm trying... I'm really hoping that tomorrow's scale reading is better. And I'm trying not to cut calories even further when I KNOW that would be too far under for my health. I lifted today and did karate, so I have (right now) about 100 kcal left to eat and part of me wants to "suffer" and starve, but I should eat. I probably will... not so good at suffering without food!

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Me too!!! I kept going to the forum...and it was making me sad that it said I was "forbidden" before the message from JP.

Ok....this freaked me out...130?! Some really nice numbers in there in this workout! Makes me wanna work harder...

Don't be upset about the lbs...maybe it's just the salt!! You're doing so well...and as long as it doesn't go the other way...you've still LOST that 1#!!!
Thanks Sidonia... I was a little freaked about "forbidden" too! And the 130# - it's less than I weigh, right? I can pull some heavy weights sometimes, but I do think it's because I've been lifting for so long - even if I wasn't doing it as effectively as I am now.
And you're right... 1# is better than gaining a pound, right?

Ugh.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE scale, give me a nice weigh-in tomorrow... I could use it...
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Old 06-12-2008, 05:37 AM   #519 (permalink)
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Hey Bytsi! Just checkin in and catching up! Your workouts never cease to amaze me, you pull some great numbers! And I don't know where you're from, but I have a strange feeling that the recent heat has been contributing to a bloated feeling. So maybe it's not just the big meal you had the other day. I have been feeling teh same way and the weather recently changed drastically to super high temps... so maybe that's part of it? Anyway, great job on the starvation day too (it's been a while since I'm come in here, lol) Don't fret too much about the scale :-)
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Old 06-12-2008, 06:40 AM   #520 (permalink)
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Hey Bytsi! Just checkin in and catching up! Your workouts never cease to amaze me, you pull some great numbers! And I don't know where you're from, but I have a strange feeling that the recent heat has been contributing to a bloated feeling. So maybe it's not just the big meal you had the other day. I have been feeling teh same way and the weather recently changed drastically to super high temps... so maybe that's part of it? Anyway, great job on the starvation day too (it's been a while since I'm come in here, lol) Don't fret too much about the scale :-)
Hey Kara - thanks for stopping by!
One of my biggest "issues" is that I love lifting. I really enjoy it! So I need to focus on fat loss, but I don't wanna quit lifts. I'd be happy to give up cardio ... but I have to decide my priorities. I don't want to be training for two things at once, but I also don't want to give up my fun lifts! Seems like I should be able to lose fat with (almost) any program if I control the eats and and burn calories... I think, either way, I'm gonna finish out NROLW and then decide where to go from there.

The scale was down .5 today, but I'm still up way higher than I was... even Google 15 has me .4 higher than last week. Not good. Just gotta stick it out...

Do you really think the weather could be bloating me that badly? It is hot and humid here, that's for sure...

BLEH!
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Old 06-12-2008, 06:53 AM   #521 (permalink)
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Hey Bytsi - a week off sounds like a great idea. I am also going to join you in reserving the right to not finish stage 5! They are the only workouts I didn't look forward to doing in this program so far. Bleh. Anyway, I wanted to second the idea of the heat and bloating. I seem to be sensitive to the humidity and retain water for some reason when it gets that way here. Even though I sweat a ton, I still seem to feel "softer" in the humidity. Don't get too caught up on the scale its something I am working on but unfortunately, seeing lower numbers will probably always feel good no matter what it was that was lost for me anyway.
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:54 AM   #522 (permalink)
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Hey Bytsi-

Don't worry too much about the weight. I know it is totally frustrating and lame, but consider:

I started my program with Leigh on Saturday. Since then I am down 4.4 lbs in 5 days. I know it would be physically impossible to lose 4.4 lbs of fat in that time. Some things she mentions in her book include the weight of food still being digested, water, glycogen, i.e., not the "real" weight loss we want to see. So I don't think yours is a "real" weight gain.
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Old 06-12-2008, 11:34 AM   #523 (permalink)
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maybe you need to stop getting on the scale for a while? I am a religious weigher, but I finally felt obsessed with the numbers and am taking a break.

Also, is it possible you are gaining muscle? I think I'm finally coming to grips with the idea that if I lose fat, the number on the scale matters little. I think I am also starting to finally get it through my head that I will HAVE to pick one goal and go for it for the short term, and then, if I want, pick the other goal. Maybe you'll have to do this to to find a happy place?

You are doing awesome. Don't let the scale make you forget that!

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