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Old 03-15-2008, 11:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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please comment on things i need to add/remove/move

still a work in progress of course

not for a traditional member gym, but for a personal training studio, so only people working out will be getting trained, and I am the only trainer.

as for as equipment goes, its only bare bones really, but I can always add on in the future, and I am a heavy believer in free weights over machines.

dumbbells are a concern right now. getting db's from 5-100 is really expensive as well as the racks for them, so for right now I will have the adjustible kind.

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Old 03-16-2008, 04:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What kind of comments are you wanting?

It lacks feng shui because the scale should be along the east wall and facing northwest. Is that what you're looking for?

Seriously, it appears there is plenty of floor space for plyos and other non-externally loaded work. You could get some powerblock adjustable DBs. They go from 5-130lbs/hand and cost < 1/5th of the cost of the entire individual DB collection and take up a single 1'x1'x3' area when in storage. Then a pair of platemates handle that little gap when going from x0 to x5.

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What kind of comments are you wanting?

It lacks feng shui because the scale should be along the east wall and facing northwest. Is that what you're looking for?

Seriously, it appears there is plenty of floor space for plyos and other non-externally loaded work. You could get some powerblock adjustable DBs. They go from 5-130lbs/hand and cost < 1/5th of the cost of the entire individual DB collection and take up a single 1'x1'x3' area when in storage. Then a pair of platemates handle that little gap when going from x0 to x5.

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maybe not neccesarily about the lay out, about the equipment selection as well
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One last thing, see 95% of physical therapists and CSCSs recommend NO LEG EXTENSIONS due to the shear forces placed on the ligaments of the knee.
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are the bars stored on/near the plate tree?

do you have to walk over the mat to get to the medicine balls?

do you have to change clothes in the bathroom? Is there enough room? Is there something to sit on that isn't the toilet? Is it handicapped accessible? Does it need to be?

Are there cubbies/lockers for me to put my purse & regular clothes - even hang them? Is this a cold climate where you need a place for coats and such?

does the bench go in the cage? can you only bench in the cage then? if you pull the bench out - where will it go ?

where's the fire extinguisher? First Aid kit?

don't you need an office - or at least a desk/phone/computer?
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Great questions, Lisa

Agree with Cynic... Scrap the leg ext/curl.

Move your stretch mats (#5) to the NE corner of the picture, and put in a carpet track for sled drag/band sprints/tire flip/whatever. Since you only have 40' (30 useful feet), then put crash pads on the walls on either side. Do at least two lanes.

I agree on the powerblock thing if you're short on space or money. Put what you save into K-bells.

You definitely ought to get some cubby space for your clients to change and leave their clothes. Even if you only have one bathroom, you are actually going to HAVE to be ADA compliant.

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Not sure where the door is?
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I was wondering the same thing. I was guessing one of those things on the outside on the south of the drawing was the door.
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One last thing, see 95% of physical therapists and CSCSs recommend NO LEG EXTENSIONS due to the shear forces placed on the ligaments of the knee.
i personally don't do them and wouldnt have my clients

the machine im looking at is a combo leg ext/leg curl

i was lookin at it for the curls
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Still don't need it. If you just bought it, get your money back. Put that money into the cost of laying down a track. Go get a sled! Or some sandbags.
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are the bars stored on/near the plate tree?
yeah, weight tree has place for bars on it
do you have to walk over the mat to get to the medicine balls?
good question, i should move those
do you have to change clothes in the bathroom? Is there enough room? Is there something to sit on that isn't the toilet? Is it handicapped accessible? Does it need to be?
all changing would be done in the bathroom, its not made yet, so I can make it bigger. great idea for soemthing to sit down on
Are there cubbies/lockers for me to put my purse & regular clothes - even hang them? Is this a cold climate where you need a place for coats and such?
great question, i didnt even think of that, will add
does the bench go in the cage? can you only bench in the cage then? if you pull the bench out - where will it go ?
as of right now, all benching will be done in the cage
where's the fire extinguisher? First Aid kit?
need to add
don't you need an office - or at least a desk/phone/computer?
yes, need to add
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Not sure where the door is?
doors are the rectangles on the outside of the walls if you get what im saying
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Great questions, Lisa

Agree with Cynic... Scrap the leg ext/curl.
really dont think a leg curl ,machine is neccesary?, i will use ghr's, rdl's, good mornings etc.. but leg curl seemed important
Move your stretch mats (#5) to the NE corner of the picture, and put in a carpet track for sled drag/band sprints/tire flip/whatever. Since you only have 40' (30 useful feet), then put crash pads on the walls on either side. Do at least two lanes.
yeah thats why i tried to keep a big area of space open. i also will have space outside to do gpp work and other stuff liek that
I agree on the powerblock thing if you're short on space or money. Put what you save into K-bells.
def. lookin into powerblocks. might decide to go with traditional db's. still not sure
You definitely ought to get some cubby space for your clients to change and leave their clothes. Even if you only have one bathroom, you are actually going to HAVE to be ADA compliant.
forgive my ignorance, but what is ADA?
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Still don't need it. If you just bought it, get your money back. Put that money into the cost of laying down a track. Go get a sled! Or some sandbags.
nothings bought yet, this is all just planning

is there a special kind of carpet for a track?

sled, sandbags, tires, sledgehammers are all things i will be getting
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ADA = American's with Disabilities Act
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My final bit on this...

a bike and treadmill are good cardio tools, but if you can, add a rower. Rowers are some of the best, overall conditioning cardio workouts you can find.

Also, if you can find the space, a cable cross or cross over is a good thing to have. It's a bit specialized, but it's such a wonderful tool. If I'm able to get a house or condo this year, I'm going to try to hold back some money for a rack and cable cross.
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My final bit on this...

a bike and treadmill are good cardio tools, but if you can, add a rower. Rowers are some of the best, overall conditioning cardio workouts you can find.

Also, if you can find the space, a cable cross or cross over is a good thing to have. It's a bit specialized, but it's such a wonderful tool. If I'm able to get a house or condo this year, I'm going to try to hold back some money for a rack and cable cross.
cable crosses are really really expensive

good idea on the rower though
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Good catch, Cynic. I thought that #9 was a crossover. Well, whatever you intended for that space, do a crossover. Matrix makes a decent "functional trainer", Vortex has a good one, Keiser as a good one, and my personal fave, Freemotion's dual stack crossover.
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cable crosses are really really expensive
You can get some for < $1,000.

Powertec Shape System Cable Crossover available now at GymCor.com 1-800-482-4553
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But I would go with up to $2000.

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DB expensive?? You have to dig deeper my friend. With the economy problem right now most shops are giving some decent deals and will give big discounts for bulk buying. Of course shipping is expensive. To keep it cheap talk with the dealers to see if they can put all your stuff on one pallete. The more palletes you use to ship your equipment, the more you have to bend over and pay out the ying yang

If you go freemotion, I would lease it. In fact I would lease any none free weight equipment pieces unless you expect low level of usage or you are good with maintenance.

Also check ebay for free weight deals.

I have a friend down around my neck of the woods that uses the "prowler" for cardiovascular training with his clients and has no treads or whatever. Alos, jumping jacks are free.

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DTOM, I am very good friends with a Freemotion rep, and I believe he covers your area. What state are you in again? I will put him in touch with you if you like. He also has a new franchise that would take all the guesswork out of your picture. They will lease you the equipment, help you with marketing, lay it out for you, and so on. I am really impressed with his franchise, and would do one myself (may still) if not for the fact that I have 15 years of brand development in my own.
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Whats the franchise name if you dont mind me asking?
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Rachael, check your PM.
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DTOM, I am very good friends with a Freemotion rep, and I believe he covers your area. What state are you in again? I will put him in touch with you if you like. He also has a new franchise that would take all the guesswork out of your picture. They will lease you the equipment, help you with marketing, lay it out for you, and so on. I am really impressed with his franchise, and would do one myself (may still) if not for the fact that I have 15 years of brand development in my own.
i'm in missouri
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Yep, he covers your area. I will have him call on you if you like. PM me your contact info.
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