Fat Loss Troubleshoot? - Page 2

shari3boys · 05-20-2008, 07:06 PM

Anyone read this yet. I bought it yesterday and finished reading the entire book from front to end...I even printed it out and put it in a binder. It was a good read, full of knowledge.
Now I need to figure out how to put it all together for myself.
I guess I am still somewhat confused on macros? I know the calories I need to lose. I know I need to weight EVERYTHING, I know i need to be accountable. Now I just to figure out a plan.
Does anyone know what Leigh reccomends for macros. I get confused with this part of it all. Maybe she doesnt reccomend any certain . I know she says no more than 30-40% from carbs.
And Leigh if you are reading I know you said 80% of people who buy dont read the whole thing...WELL I DID...YEAH lol

Anyone just wondering if anyone else has read this and is going to try to put it into practice?

jenofthemountain · 05-20-2008, 07:42 PM

I just bought it yesterday and still need to read it. I hate reading books on a computer, so I am also printing it out this evening and planning to get it read over the next few days. I also bought her other book as well since it might prove useful too.

Once I've actually read and digested it I'll try to post about my plans!

Leigh P. · 05-20-2008, 09:08 PM

Ha I do appreciate you seeing that part there Shari.

In the book I actually don't make any specific recommendation for carb intake. I say..

Quote:

"In general, I feel staying in a range of 30-50% of your daily intake fits for almost everyone. Lower than 30 % on a constant basis and you may, especially women, run into some hormonal and general physiological repercussions. If doing cycling diet programs or taking part of re-feeds, carb load, etc. this different, and can be done for longer periods of times or permanently."

So check pages 15-16 again.

Also in general this isn't about just giving you a blind program to follow. It explains all the reasons why and that you really don't have to worry about macros as much as you think you need too BUT if you do I give some good general guidelines of what that should be.

So give it a 2nd scan

shari3boys · 05-21-2008, 03:57 AM

Wow that was fast Leigh!

I just emailed you before I checked here, but I emailed you about a question I have on the chapter Putting in All Together.
So when you have time............
THanks.... I hope im not driving you crazy!

shari3boys · 05-21-2008, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jenofthemountain

I just bought it yesterday and still need to read it. I hate reading books on a computer, so I am also printing it out this evening and planning to get it read over the next few days. I also bought her other book as well since it might prove useful too.

Once I've actually read and digested it I'll try to post about my plans!

Cool after you have maybe we can discuss it some.

Bytsi · 05-21-2008, 06:06 AM

I bought it yesterday too (lol) -- read about half, but I really should also do some WORK when I'm at work

RedWifey · 05-21-2008, 06:22 AM

hey Shari, I am going to move this thread to the general training forum and merge it with the other thread on the topic.

Leigh is AWESOME!

shari3boys · 05-21-2008, 07:23 AM

wow i just got so confused
thatnks i see what happened now you moved me

lol

prof41 · 05-21-2008, 07:44 AM

hI

Are these books as good for men as for women...hubby wants to know

Deserve · 05-21-2008, 08:23 AM

Fat loss is fat loss. I hope it's not just for women or I have some soul searching and reconsidering to do.

Seriously, from talking with Leigh in the past I don't think there is any appreciable difference.

Sarabatis · 05-24-2008, 12:10 PM

I wanted to come out of lurk just to say that I have been following Leigh for some time now because of information that she has posted in threads here and in her blog. I have officially hit my goal this weekend of 112 pounds!!!!!!!

The books helped me put the last bit into overdrive but Leigh's free advice and her amazing effort to answer my annoying emails without any reason to is what lead to the big change. I tried for 10 years and I couldn't do what she helped me do in 7 months. That may not seem overly fast to everyone but it was 30 pounds that would not move for me.

Before I did things like the cosgroves warp. I called it starvation with training.

I would lose fake weight, feel horrible, I would lose my period, and the weight would come back on! You have no idea how amazing it feels to know that the fat is gone and it isn't every coming back!

To Prof41: These books are for a man or a woman. If you haven't already I would do your hubby a favor and buy them!

To Leigh: You have my permission to use this as a testimonial

bacardio · 05-24-2008, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarabatis

I wanted to come out of lurk just to say that I have been following Leigh for some time now because of information that she has posted in threads here and in her blog. I have officially hit my goal this weekend of 112 pounds!!!!!!!

Nice work!!!!!

Take a bow!! and celebrate! (but not with junk food

)

shari3boys · 05-25-2008, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarabatis

I wanted to come out of lurk just to say that I have been following Leigh for some time now because of information that she has posted in threads here and in her blog. I have officially hit my goal this weekend of 112 pounds!!!!!!!

The books helped me put the last bit into overdrive but Leigh's free advice and her amazing effort to answer my annoying emails without any reason to is what lead to the big change. I tried for 10 years and I couldn't do what she helped me do in 7 months. That may not seem overly fast to everyone but it was 30 pounds that would not move for me.

Before I did things like the cosgroves warp. I called it starvation with training.

I would lose fake weight, feel horrible, I would lose my period, and the weight would come back on! You have no idea how amazing it feels to know that the fat is gone and it isn't every coming back!

To Prof41: These books are for a man or a woman. If you haven't already I would do your hubby a favor and buy them!

To Leigh: You have my permission to use this as a testimonial

Thats awesome
So do you have FLTS? Or did you use Metabloic repair? Or did you just common sense and information she gave you?
I would love to hear more about your journey .
Congrats on reaching your goal that is awesome

prof41 · 05-26-2008, 04:46 PM

Hey All

Bought the book last week also....it's good, and I'm glad to see Sarabatis had such good results.

The only thing I can not seem to figure out it the activity level info and calorie requirements. There seems to be two ways, one on page 9 and the other on page 72. I finally used the number based on the quizz Leigh gives to figure out my calorie needs, however when reviewing the program diet, I am not sure when she says: ''remember to include training in your activity calculating''.

Does that mean that if I train one day and according to a fitness calcultor, I burn and extra, say 500 cals, that I can eat more that day than the number of cals prescribed once the quizz is taken and the activity level is taken into consideration...I doubt it, but am a bit confused.

Leigh P. · 05-26-2008, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarabatis

I wanted to come out of lurk just to say that I have been following Leigh for some time now because of information that she has posted in threads here and in her blog. I have officially hit my goal this weekend of 112 pounds!!!!!!!

The books helped me put the last bit into overdrive but Leigh's free advice and her amazing effort to answer my annoying emails without any reason to is what lead to the big change. I tried for 10 years and I couldn't do what she helped me do in 7 months. That may not seem overly fast to everyone but it was 30 pounds that would not move for me.

Before I did things like the cosgroves warp. I called it starvation with training.

I would lose fake weight, feel horrible, I would lose my period, and the weight would come back on! You have no idea how amazing it feels to know that the fat is gone and it isn't every coming back!

To Prof41: These books are for a man or a woman. If you haven't already I would do your hubby a favor and buy them!

To Leigh: You have my permission to use this as a testimonial

Hi Sara

Thank you very much for these kind words.

Leigh P. · 05-26-2008, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prof41

Hey All

Bought the book last week also....it's good, and I'm glad to see Sarabatis had such good results.

The only thing I can not seem to figure out it the activity level info and calorie requirements. There seems to be two ways, one on page 9 and the other on page 72. I finally used the number based on the quizz Leigh gives to figure out my calorie needs, however when reviewing the program diet, I am not sure when she says: ''remember to include training in your activity calculating''.

Does that mean that if I train one day and according to a fitness calculator, I burn and extra, say 500 cals, that I can eat more that day than the number of cals prescribed once the quizz is taken and the activity level is taken into consideration...I doubt it, but am a bit confused.

It isn't two options as so much it is how to get the best activity level possible.

If you look at the first formula it is based on your BMR x activity level. Getting this number as correct as possible is pretty crucial to fat loss. This is why I give you my own activity level test so that you can instead of using a generic formula one, provide a better guess at your own.

Those standard activity tests give you very few options and make it hard to figure out caloric needs based up 5 categories. You are going to very likely end up on the wrong side (higher or lower than need) using just that. I think the activity test in my book is one of the best parts because it really takes so many things into account to best try to provide you with a realistic account of where you multiply level should apply.

The formula on the first page you listed may give you a activity level of 1.4. That is the generic guess based on that formula.

However, the activity level test may land you at 1.6. Meaning if your BMR is 1400 and you x that by 1.6 you are at a maintenance of 2240 vs the generic telling you that your maintenance is 1960. It doesn't matter if one day you are 1.1 and the other you are 1.9. The tests gives the over all average that should even out in the long run. Some days you may be a little higher than like, some days a little lower, but the landing is overall much more accurate and there for you will run into a lot less problems with overtraining, overeating, or binging because of pure starvation.

So including your training means when you take the quiz, if you plan on training 3 times a week, then include that as a answer in your quiz for training amount. Meaning don't take the quiz and not take into account the things you are planning on doing daily, even if you aren't doing them yet.

That being said, make sure that you ACTUALLY do the training or else you aren't going to be in as much of a deficit, there for, less fat loss.

This is about eating for activity and what you really need, not just a figment number, which is likely why it is so confusing because to most diets eating for what you actually need is a bizarre concept.

I hope that helps answer your question and thank you for the faith of purchase.

prof41 · 05-26-2008, 05:49 PM

Got it Leigh

Thanks for the quick reply!!
Annie

Jodi · 05-27-2008, 05:05 PM

Can you guys tell me...is this a really low carb program? Or more moderate. I mean is some oatmeal and whole grain products allowed?

Thanks, Jodi

L'ilJ · 05-27-2008, 06:37 PM

NOT low carb.

You can actually eat like a normal person and STILL lose fat. Shocker!

LisaS · 05-27-2008, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodi

Can you guys tell me...is this a really low carb program? Or more moderate. I mean is some oatmeal and whole grain products allowed?

Thanks, Jodi

not really an eating plan - FLTS is more about how plan's are made and how fat loss really works to enable you to look at and tweak whichever one you have chosen -

Jodi · 05-28-2008, 12:31 PM

I am interested in buying this ebook, but am hesitant. Mainly because I probably own or have owned just about every nutrition program there is. I have Precision Nutrition, Burn the Fat, Lyle McDonalds Rapid Fatloss and numerous others.

I am 43, currently overweight and do know how to lose weight. Just have a problem keeping it off.

I vowed to never buy another diet or nutrition program, but am also frustrated with being overweight.

For those who own this....how will it help someone who already knows a lot about nutrition. (or at least I think I do)

Thanks, Jodi

Bytsi · 05-28-2008, 12:38 PM

Hey Jodi,

I felt like you did - I thought that I knew a lot and have read a lot and am educated in the field... but I was so stuck and frustrated with myself (sometimes it's hard to see the forest for the trees).

What I like about FLTS: It's NOT a diet. You can use your own diet and exercise plan, but fit it into a template Leigh lays out.
I also like that she has a nice clear way of explaining the real important points that are so often skipped (NEAT, actually measuring food).

I disliked (sorry Leigh, but I'm a type-A neurotic): Some grammar/typo/spelling things that it probably wouldn't have if it were published on paper and edited a bit more - this is NOT to take away from the information in it, it's my own pickiness...

Overall, it was good for me. It FINALLY drove home for me that little things add up. It's one thing to read it, but all the actual numbers / charts / examples really made me finally get that AHA moment. And so far, so good - I'm down 2# in less than a week of measuring and not eating one drop that I don't account for.

Now, having said that, I also made other changes (kicked out the remaining white carbs from my diet, which I've been meaning to do but just didn't quite do).

The other good thing is that if I stall-out, I have other things I can look at - types/frequencies of exercise and activity, the effects of cortisol, and other things in my diet I can tweak (measuring isn't the only thing she teaches).

I don't regret spending the $. Hope that helps!

RedWifey · 05-28-2008, 12:39 PM

Hey Jodi,

I am going to merge this with the other Troubleshooter thread that you've commented in.

Thanks!

jamie

Leigh P. · 05-28-2008, 05:59 PM

Hey Jodi,

Well I was trying to be thread clean and put everything together but ended up erasing my response! I am not that bright sometimes.

Anyway, the point of my longwinded post was this...

There is only one way to lose fat.

All those books, good or bad, they all lead to the same thing.

Some trick you to do it, some do it by points, some do it by portions, some are just upfront about it, but in the end the deficit is all that does it.

So what you need to do is not worry about the different "methods" of fat loss, and just educate on what fat loss is. That way, after that, you can choose what method works best for Jodi.

For the record I do provide a program with the book if in need.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytsi

Hey Jodi,

I felt like you did - I thought that I knew a lot and have read a lot and am educated in the field... but I was so stuck and frustrated with myself (sometimes it's hard to see the forest for the trees).

What I like about FLTS: It's NOT a diet. You can use your own diet and exercise plan, but fit it into a template Leigh lays out.
I also like that she has a nice clear way of explaining the real important points that are so often skipped (NEAT, actually measuring food).

I disliked (sorry Leigh, but I'm a type-A neurotic): Some grammar/typo/spelling things that it probably wouldn't have if it were published on paper and edited a bit more - this is NOT to take away from the information in it, it's my own pickiness...

Overall, it was good for me. It FINALLY drove home for me that little things add up. It's one thing to read it, but all the actual numbers / charts / examples really made me finally get that AHA moment. And so far, so good - I'm down 2# in less than a week of measuring and not eating one drop that I don't account for.

Now, having said that, I also made other changes (kicked out the remaining white carbs from my diet, which I've been meaning to do but just didn't quite do).

The other good thing is that if I stall-out, I have other things I can look at - types/frequencies of exercise and activity, the effects of cortisol, and other things in my diet I can tweak (measuring isn't the only thing she teaches).

I don't regret spending the $. Hope that helps!

Hey Bytsi,

I deeply apologize about the grammar. I actually did use a professional editor and lost a HUGE chunk on it. All major mistake have been fixed to the best of my ability (fat loss I know, grammar, not so much) but there is another edit coming and ALL books will be replaced once it fixed along with some extra to express my thanks to the readers and patience on the issue. Everyone who bought it will be getting a email on this soon

As for the rest I am glad you had some AHA moments, I have heard that a bit now and it is really nice to know the book is helping a lot of people take things back to the basics.

Thank you very much for your kind words.

Jodi · 05-28-2008, 06:35 PM

Hi Leigh..thank you for the reply! I caved and ordered both. I have them downloaded and am beginning to read them now. I really hope I can finally stop the awful yo-yoing I've been doing for what seems like all my life!

Jodi

UConnJulie · 05-28-2008, 06:45 PM

Jodi, you won't be disappointed!!

jenofthemountain · 05-28-2008, 09:31 PM

I just started the OPT for Fat Loss. I am going to track my progess at my new log:

http://forums.jpfitness.com/training...-fat-loss.html

Leigh P. · 05-29-2008, 10:12 AM

Jodi I really hope it helps pull all that good knowledge you have already got together into a big bang!

Jen-Thanks for linking the log, I love seeing the program progress stuff. It helps me help others better and see more patterns than what I have seen in test, etc.

jenofthemountain · 05-29-2008, 11:11 PM

No problem Leigh -

I have to say that your books are the first ones I have ever bought that really explains things as to why they happen the way they do. So unlike the million of other "diet" books out there that just explain what seems to be thier one gimick to buy the book. There were so many more "ah-hah" moments in your book then I have gotten in a long time. Thanks! I am really looking foward to seeing changes!

Bytsi · 05-30-2008, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leigh P.

Hey Bytsi,

I deeply apologize about the grammar. I actually did use a professional editor and lost a HUGE chunk on it. All major mistake have been fixed to the best of my ability (fat loss I know, grammar, not so much) but there is another edit coming and ALL books will be replaced once it fixed along with some extra to express my thanks to the readers and patience on the issue. Everyone who bought it will be getting a email on this soon

As for the rest I am glad you had some AHA moments, I have heard that a bit now and it is really nice to know the book is helping a lot of people take things back to the basics.

Thank you very much for your kind words.

Hi Leigh - no need to apologize - like I said, I can be kinda anal about that stuff

. It's MUCH more important to have good info than to write a bunch of crap with lovely prose

.

For anyone who's interested, after a full week (maybe 8 days? gotta reread my log) of accounting for every bite and measuring/weighing - I am down 3# and feeling VERY encouraged that maybe I've FINALLY found my achilles heel and fixed it. Stop eating even little tiny things and thinking that if I'm mostly good it won't matter. DUH!!!