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Old 09-14-2009, 09:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Husband needs some guidance- NROL?

Hi everyone... I'm finally on week 12 of OPT. Go me I've got a horrible cold going, but I am somehow soldiering on...

Anyways, this question is about my husband. He's a former basketball player, age 34, 6'3" and 280. About 5 years ago he was doing pretty well exercising consistently and at 230, but he stopped going to the gym when life got busier with the kids. In the past, he's followed BFL and random programs with his friends, but I think now he needs a more focused training program.

Anyone have any thoughts about the NROL for his scenario? He probably needs to lose at least 50-60 poounds of fat. I will try and help him achieve the deficit (he's not one for calculations).

I appreciate any advice- thanks!
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I've no personal experience with NROL, but the general thought is that fat loss is all about the deficit. Aside from that, the important thing is just to keep a consistent training program. To that end, I think NROL would suit him.
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Totally get that.. just looking for a suitably "manly" workout program to peak his interest
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:17 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Will he read NROL to get the education about the compound movements and such? Or does he just want someone to hand him a sheet of what to do?
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Old 09-14-2009, 12:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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50-60 lbs is going to take a LONG time and dieting sucks. This is why I went with Rapid Fat Loss. It is extreme but it works and if you follow the guidelines completely safe for most people. (Assuming normal kidney function)

This is what I would suggest your husband look into.
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Old 09-14-2009, 12:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I don't know if my honey is ready for extreme! lol...

I'm not sure about whether or not he'd be interested in the education aspect of it, Lisa. Possibly. I was hoping for more of a science-based program that he can buy into. Time is tight for him too- it needs to be a pretty basic program that he can do in several settings (he's a FF and will need to do that program at work with minimal equipment).

Is NROL like that?
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I think he'll enjoy the workouts in NROL. The book explains the "why" of the compound movements (with science ) and why they will bring results.

He will need access to a squat rack and free weights for squats and deadlifts and a bench for bench press, etc. Are those items part of the "minimal equipment" he has access to at work? He'll need to be able to either do lat pulldowns or chin ups as well.
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I'll check on the lat pulldowns. Those are questionable. Also, not sure about the squat rack. I think he has access to plenty of dumbbells and barbells. Is there a cardio component to the programs do you know?
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There is no cardio protocol in NROL in that its laid out for you. There are 9 modular lifting routines ( 3 each of Fat Loss, Hypertrophy, and Strength). There's a section in the book talking about cardio, but it's not prescribed within the workout routines.
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Hmmm.. my husband hates cardio. He probably wouldn't do it at all if there isn't some specific routine suggested.
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Actually, the lifter #4 (serious about lifting, but seriously overweight) does include a metabolic overdrive after most of the lifting sessions, but they can be anything (bike, running, swimming, rowing, calisthenics). They add 19 - 28 mins to the workouts.
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Anne, thanks, that's very helpful. The book is so cheap, I'll probably just pick it up and hope that it gives him some direction and inspiration. After 3 years of being sedentary and eating at slightly higher than maintenance, I'm sure almost anything would work for him!
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I gave my husband NROL at the library to check out. He does do cardio regularly (he's run 3 marathons in his past) and he lifts weights regularly...he also loves to eat.

He read through the book yesterday, decided he needed to take a rest day (as he'll lift a bit here and a bit there many days of the week) and he ate an omlette with egg whites for his breakfast.

The man doesn't eat breakfast.

Super cool, huh.
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NR would work. TAP would work (it even offers options for "at home" although some I'd have better tradeouts for). Hell, TAP is kinda anti-cardio (as it was fighting the myth that one needs cardio to lose weight) so… NR is newer and has somewhat newer info… There's loads of stuff out there, but I think those 2 give someone two important things: a good read (Lou is entertaining) and a good program of a "do this, then this." NR is a matter of picking your routine with some guidance based on typical goals… TAP is just a straight program. You could glance through either/both at the library/bookstore (as well as others) and see what might appeal more at this point in time.
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If he's a rank beginner to weightlifting, I'd lean towards something like starting strength, but he's probably got some previous experience and so can probably handle the relatively terse descriptions of each movement. If he just wants a bunch of different creative workouts then NROL would probably be real good.
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Old 09-17-2009, 07:50 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Thanks everyone! I think NROL might be the fit for him right now... course I'll have to run it by him!
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