The Fat Loss TroubleshootThis is your place to troubleshoot your fat loss problems from nutrition to training. This section is led by Leigh Peele, author of "The Fat Loss Troubleshoot," the ultimate fat loss manual. If your results have slowed or stalled this is the place to come for advice for all your fat loss needs.
What do you think of 28-day detoxification programs?
My issue is that I am losing weight at a 1/2 pound per MONTH rate on 100% compliance; 1350 cal average with 800 cal avg deficit daily, GWF. Didn't lose on 1200 cal avg either. Haven't lost all my diet break weight after 2 weeks deficit. Chronically constipated. Healthy otherwise. I have an apt with endocrinologist for thyroid on Sept 3.
Dr. Brian Walsh naturopath: http://www.visvitality.com/detox_program.html
"Our program is much more than the laxative based, “colon cleanses” available in health food stores or the juice fasts found online.
The primary difference in our program is that we address numerous detoxification pathways (liver, kidney, gi, skin, mental/emotional), while simultaneously attempting to decrease inflammation in your body. This is accomplished in a number of ways"
Supplements
The supplements are a major part of our detoxification program. We’ve selected the purest, most potent and highest-quality supplements we could find for this program. Here is a brief description and rationale for each:
Functional Detoxification Powder - This is a scientifically designed formula offering hypo-allergenic nutrients, necessary enzymatic cofactors, metabolic precursors, and herbal compounds to support liver detoxification reactions and bile flow. This is the backbone of nutritional support for the detoxification program.
Liver Support #1 - A comprehensive formula that provides a rich mix of key vitamin substrates and amino acids required for Phase I and II detoxification, as well as clinically validated herbs that further support healthy detoxification reactions, hepatic cell growth, and RNA synthesis.
Liver Support #2 - This product supports detoxification by providing essential lipotropic nutrients and herbal compounds that support healthy bile synthesis and bile formation, bile secretion, stasis, and elimination.
Liver Support #3 - This formula provides key nutrients and cofactors in clinically effective amounts necessary to promote healthy methylation reactions. It also contains compounds clinically validated to support healthy bile synthesis and homocysteine metabolism. Methylation reactions are crucial steps in many important biochemical pathways and depend on essential nutrients to act as cofactors.
Cellular Recharge - An important precursor homeopathic remedy to be taken before undertaking a detoxification program. Helps energize and recharge cellular metabolic processes. Helps to counter symptoms of free radical damage. Supports cellular metabolic processes for generation of more ATP and cellular energy.
Drainage Complex - Homeopathic remedy that provides general drainage support for key filtering organs such as liver, kidney, and lymphs. Ideal for use with any detox remedy for stimulation of extra drainage.
Omega 3 Oil - This formula provides omega-3 fatty acids of EPA and DHA, as well as the necessary cofactors for the enzymes that catalyze conversion processes.
Do you know anything about this test: I have many of these symptoms. Gastrointestinal Effects Profile
Poor digestion leads to a cascade of negative body effects. It leads to nutritional deficiencies which lead to broad spectrum cellular dysfunction. By allowing food to ferment in the stomach, poor digestion leads to leaky gut and food allergies. Additionally, an environment for bacteria, yeast, and parasites to flourish is created, leading to toxicity and skin conditions.
It is essential to know the balance between beneficial and harmful bacteria in your GI tract, particularly if you have chronic health problems. This test may be beneficial for people with chronic GI symptoms such as constipation, gas, or diarrhea. Seemingly non related disorders can also be associated with gut dysfunction such as fatigue, eczema, and difficulty losing weight. This test is conveniently collected at home through a single stool sample.
I'm not Leigh Etana but I feel your pain. I am in the same boat as you. Don't jump on every bandwagon especially severe detoxes. Wait until you see the endo to figure out what's really going on with your body. I am 46 and am going through a lot of the same issues as you only I also have been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia, possible MS and have thyroid nodules. It's hard to wait but let the endo have a chance to find out what's going on hormonally in your body. If you feel you need a boost maybe start a regimen of digestive enzymes and probiotics. Hang in there.
I'm not Leigh Etana but I feel your pain. I am in the same boat as you. Don't jump on every bandwagon especially severe detoxes. Wait until you see the endo to figure out what's really going on with your body. I am 46 and am going through a lot of the same issues as you only I also have been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia, possible MS and have thyroid nodules. It's hard to wait but let the endo have a chance to find out what's going on hormonally in your body. If you feel you need a boost maybe start a regimen of digestive enzymes and probiotics. Hang in there.
Thanks, I am taking probiotics and Udo's enzymes.
I will wait to see the endo before starting the detox, if I do do it. Good idea. Patience.
Problem with patience is that Day 1 of new diet: I am in action and patient. After week 6, no results I am in action and patient. After week 8 no results and I am getting edgy.. I tell myself 'patience.' ... but it starts to lose its magic
Just skimming over the page you linked to... it sounds like complete BS to me. There's lots of pseudoscientific mumbo jumbo there, along with scare tactics, and claims with no references. I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole, but that's just me.
Detox is bullshit. IMHO. Just like those commercials that sell products that "remove the estimated 20lbs of matter attached to your bowels, like spackle on a wall." Total crap and wishful thinking.
you could just drink the pre-colonoscopy pre-surgery stuff - that cleans you right out as well
Well, it did NOT clean me out. I had 2 complete doses and not a full action. I think I then took laxatives..
Also, it does not replenish as a detox does.
What I am thinking of doing NOW, though is food elimination of sorts. I have been eating 1 corn on the cob almost daily and I just read that corn is a problem food. I also eat some peanuts, maybe 1/2 oz, 3-4 times a week. I don't eat much gluten. I think there's a lot to the topic of food elimination, though...
Detox is bullshit. IMHO. Just like those commercials that sell products that "remove the estimated 20lbs of matter attached to your bowels, like spackle on a wall." Total crap and wishful thinking.
thank you for the comments. I will really think before I do anything along this line. I did a detox about 3-4 years ago and saw no change or any effect from it. And my colonoscophy from last Fall was fine.
by the way, Etana I responded to your email, hope you got it!
Just got it, thanks! The one thing I hope you don't mind my quoting here is this:
Quote:
As Leigh has said before, if those issues were causing problems with weight loss a person would probably be so sick they would be hospitalized or doing very poorly in general
Except for chronic major constipation I feel fine, and even wasn't a concern of my gastroenterologist. The reason I lean towards alternative medicine, is I wonder, "How can a gastroenterologist say that moving one's bowels once every 10 days is not a sign of worry, to take some preventative action?"
However my Gastro Dr did suggest psyllium and miralax, which had been helping until I started eating all this corn on the cob. Such a beatiful whole food of summer
Just a suggestion because this works for me. For the last 1.5 years I eat appx 3 tbl chia seeds every day and take a magnesuim supplement with supper. This works very well for me and had tried many cleansing products as well as being on Zelnorm before it was taken off the market. If you want more detail you can PM me.
Cindy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Etana
Thanks, I am taking probiotics and Udo's enzymes.
I will wait to see the endo before starting the detox, if I do do it. Good idea. Patience.
Problem with patience is that Day 1 of new diet: I am in action and patient. After week 6, no results I am in action and patient. After week 8 no results and I am getting edgy.. I tell myself 'patience.' ... but it starts to lose its magic
Hey Etana, this may be an obvious thing you already took into consideration but how many grams of fiber are you getting? I have heard (don't know for sure) that low-carbing causes major stoppage. Also lemons are high in fiber, lemons and black coffee and stay near a restroom. And Miralax, my doctor writes me a script for the big jar you can't get OTC and my copay is less than i'd pay if i bought it from the drug store. I mix it into my shakes.
Mineral oil too. And hate to say it, but maybe exploring an enema?
Detox is bullshit. IMHO. Just like those commercials that sell products that "remove the estimated 20lbs of matter attached to your bowels, like spackle on a wall." Total crap and wishful thinking.
How much do you think is attached to our walls? 5-10 sounds reasonable depending on a persons size/diet I guess. I mean food "weighs" something and some things just sit there like stones like lentils and beans pasta and potatoes (french fries).
Hey Etana, this may be an obvious thing you already took into consideration but how many grams of fiber are you getting? I have heard (don't know for sure) that low-carbing causes major stoppage. Also lemons are high in fiber, lemons and black coffee and stay near a restroom. And Miralax, my doctor writes me a script for the big jar you can't get OTC and my copay is less than i'd pay if i bought it from the drug store. I mix it into my shakes.
Mineral oil too. And hate to say it, but maybe exploring an enema?
you might just skip this post if you don't want to know....
I eat olive bruschetta which may work similar to the mineral oil
I take miralax. For a while things were working nicely with 2T psyllium husk, 1T miralax, a colace, bruschetta twice a week, and lots of vegies for fiber.
My current theory is that the 1-a-day corn on the cob that I've been enjoying as a 1-ingredient healthy carb, was binding, and I have thrown all my corn out. Also, I dropped the psyllium down to once a day... Guess I have to be diligent about what was working and see if I can get it to kick in again. But this is chronic, like 20-30 years now. So I don't think lemon is gonna do the trick..
Don't want to do an enema. This isn't 1 week of discomfort. Actually, I am rarely uncomfortable, even after eating salad every day for 10 days with no movement. Just gassy, but not uncomfortable in that constipated way...
low carbing may cause stoppage but so does high carbing...
Gastroenterologist just prescribed the miralax and wasn't concerned. That's what I think is weird about western medical doctors. How can they "not be concerned" about these symptoms...
I have heard that constipation is another symptom of thyroid issues, and I see an endo on Sept 3. Thanks for the suggestions. Nothing brings me rushing to the bathroom. Not even the colonoscophy cocktail
How much do you think is attached to our walls? 5-10 sounds reasonable depending on a persons size/diet I guess. I mean food "weighs" something and some things just sit there like stones like lentils and beans pasta and potatoes (french fries).
you might just skip this post if you don't want to know....
I eat olive bruschetta which may work similar to the mineral oil
I take miralax. For a while things were working nicely with 2T psyllium husk, 1T miralax, a colace, bruschetta twice a week, and lots of vegies for fiber.
My current theory is that the 1-a-day corn on the cob that I've been enjoying as a 1-ingredient healthy carb, was binding, and I have thrown all my corn out. Also, I dropped the psyllium down to once a day... Guess I have to be diligent about what was working and see if I can get it to kick in again. But this is chronic, like 20-30 years now. So I don't think lemon is gonna do the trick..
Don't want to do an enema. This isn't 1 week of discomfort. Actually, I am rarely uncomfortable, even after eating salad every day for 10 days with no movement. Just gassy, but not uncomfortable in that constipated way...
low carbing may cause stoppage but so does high carbing...
Gastroenterologist just prescribed the miralax and wasn't concerned. That's what I think is weird about western medical doctors. How can they "not be concerned" about these symptoms...
I have heard that constipation is another symptom of thyroid issues, and I see an endo on Sept 3. Thanks for the suggestions. Nothing brings me rushing to the bathroom. Not even the colonoscophy cocktail
Gosh I'm sorry, that sucks. I have also had a harder time with "going" than most people for most of my life. i kinda forget and have to go do the miralax or lemons or something. But I get that bloatedness from it. Funny you should mention thyroid and I am also exploring the possibility of a malfunctioning thyroid as well as auto-immune stuff. will be interesting to see what the endo has to say.
i read somewhere that corn is evil. probably a good idea cutting it out.
We have no scientific evidence that anything "sticks" to your insides and causes disease or body fat gain. We have no evidence that "cleansing" before a diet makes the diet work better afterwards. It's these claims, and use of scare tactics (photos of "pounds" of "gunk" that supposedly was sticking to your insides), more than anything that are way off base and unethical.
If you want even more proof that colon cleansing is a scam, ask a gastroenterologist who has done colonoscopies or even surgeries. Seriously, who would know better than someone who looks at the insides of colons on a regular basis? Ask a medical student or medical examiner - why don't autopsies routinely find clogged up intestines and colons in the deceased? (Especially folks who died of diseases supposedly caused by the alleged "clogged up, toxic system.")
[/size]I really don't think that hardened or toxic poo is collecting on the insides of our intestines like plaque in arteries.
[/size]
The 2 times I had my colonoscophy (first time I saw video before falling asleep, second time they gave me photos), the colon looks clean and pink and pretty, surprisingly like the inside of your mouth. I was flaberghasted at how clean and pink it was. I think fecal matter does get clogged up and can harden, but I don't think it "sticks to the walls" and I think those multiple (like 6-10 treatment) colon flushes are quackery/unnecessary.
[/size]I really don't think that hardened or toxic poo is collecting on the insides of our intestines like plaque in arteries.
[/size]
The 2 times I had my colonoscophy (first time I saw video before falling asleep, second time they gave me photos), the colon looks clean and pink and pretty, surprisingly like the inside of your mouth. I was flaberghasted at how clean and pink it was. I think fecal matter does get clogged up and can harden, but I don't think it "sticks to the walls" and I think those multiple (like 6-10 treatment) colon flushes are quackery/unnecessary.
But my original question had a list of products and their purposes and I found them interesting beyond the laxative aspect. That's the "naturopath aspect" and it mentioned affecting liver, lymph etc. I wondered if anyone knows about this. It's really a 28 day guided fast, where you get nutrition, and high dose of certain supplements, from what it seems to me.
Leigh: Detoxification Programs?
Linear Mode
