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Anyone got good photos of someone at same weight but diff bodyfat %?
Hi guys
I have a 13 year old client, who insists she wants to lose 'a lot of weight'. I'm training her and her mum together and spent the consultation explaining to them both how exercise will help her look and feel better, but at any age, this can happen with less scale weight loss than you might want, and that especially at 13 she is still growing!
She is a normal sized 13 year old! Pretty, relatively slim, needs to get fit and 'shape up' to feel good about herself but is not an obese child who does need to lose a lot of weight...
To illustrate my points I want to show her a photo of a fit, healthy person with lean muscle (not 'muscley' though!) who is relatively low bodyfat but say 140lb, then another person the same height (or the same person pre-recomp) who is 140lb but a high bodyfat %.
I thought somewhere in this treasure trove of fitness info there might be someone who has some pics that I could show her...
I think there is more to this story than just a 13-year old worrying about her shape. I have a 23-year old daughter. At 13, she would have never been exercising with me. And certainly wouldn't have thought it normal to be exercising with a personal trainer. So my first thought is why is this girl wanting to lose a lot of weight and working with a personal trainer? I wonder if her mother is aiding and abetting her daughter into body self-hatred and the long-term repercussions of such.
I think there is more to this story than just a 13-year old worrying about her shape. I have a 23-year old daughter. At 13, she would have never been exercising with me. And certainly wouldn't have thought it normal to be exercising with a personal trainer. So my first thought is why is this girl wanting to lose a lot of weight and working with a personal trainer? I wonder if her mother is aiding and abetting her daughter into body self-hatred and the long-term repercussions of such.
DanceDiva makes a valid point about the self-hatred and long-term repercussions. The child & mom need to be pointed in the direction of fitness & health & away from how they looks.
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I am short on time and couldn't find what I was looking for. I can say that in just a few days I will have that picture comparison out in the new download manual for my site.
That being said, I have to chime in and agree that when you are working with kids, especially 13 year old girls, you have to tread lightly on these issues. I think educating is a good thing but I try and do the best I can to encourage simple nutrition principles and a lot of fun bodyweight training. I like to let kids be kids as long as they can be in this world.
It will be fun exercise and activity and low key education about healthy, balanced eating for sure, nothing intense and personal trainer-y!
Definitely concerned about the issues, and the mum - I cannot believe she didn't contradict the girl when she said she wants to lose a lot of weight... I will probably measure to start but not labour re-measuring at all, and just try to keep it fun... As for the pics, it is just part of trying to educate her NOT to rely on scale weight (hypocritcally as I am as bad as the next person at wanting the scales to say what I want them to say!).
Funnily enough, just been asked to train another 13 year old, this one does have a massive weight issue, 15 stone at last measure... I have some challenges ahead with both...
Working with kids is def a challenge. I have enjoyed it but I must say I don't do it often, mostly because of the parents. Lots of respect to you Caroline.
When I was 14 or so, I wanted to try a gym. I was the kid who was never interested in moving, but I thought those machines just looked awesome. I thought this was going to rock. My mom drove me to a big empty gym where I did situps for half an hour, with little or no instruction. It was obviously meant to discourage me, and clear that no one wanted to train a kid.
I went on to sit on my ass for 15 years and develop severly weakened leg muscles and chondromalacia. Everyone is different, of course, but I really wish someone had given the 14 year old me a chance to learn what I know now. I too had body issues when I was in my early teens, and I think weight traiing would have helped. Body issues are often about taking control over your body (sadly often in a destructive or anorexic way). Weight training showed me a positive way to take control over my body. My ideal body type changed. I began to value strength.
I'm rambling. Yes, training kids must be hard. But I think it can be a tremendously beneficial influence. If you're up for the challenge. God knows it's better she learns from you than from Shape and Cosmo.
What about bring in a body fat % scale and hopping on it? Take a quick measure and then down a glass of water. Repeat. Then just point out the obvious - are you suddenly fatter? No. So why put so much emphasis on something that isn't accurate?
Take out a gossip rag and find a scrawny celebrity and compare them to someone who looks healthier (ie Jennifer Garner, Jessica Biel pre-muscle loss), etc). Ask her which looks stronger, healthier, and hotter? Who looks frail, timid, and/or like a pre-pubescent boy?
Can she see their weights? No. Would she rather focus on losing a ton of weight or would she rather focus on feeling and looking stronger, fitter, and more confident?
I honestly wish someone had said those things to me. I was that girl when I was 13. Except I wasn't telling this to a trainer, I was telling this to the weightloss counselor at diet meeting. And I was at the "ideal" bmi for my height
I think there is more to this story than just a 13-year old worrying about her shape. I have a 23-year old daughter. At 13, she would have never been exercising with me. And certainly wouldn't have thought it normal to be exercising with a personal trainer. So my first thought is why is this girl wanting to lose a lot of weight and working with a personal trainer? I wonder if her mother is aiding and abetting her daughter into body self-hatred and the long-term repercussions of such.
Oh diva- you have the right of it. When I was 13 I was just starting to get my womanly curves. A health club had just opened in our small town. Suddenly the comments from my mother were all about how much weight I was gaining and that I needed to "watch it" etc. She drug me to the gym and insisted that if I did not work out I was going to be fat. At 13 I weighed 85 lbs.
My mother had a poor body image of herself and found it convenient to project onto her children.
Yes. I can see how getting a wind serpent would help a thirteen year old girl with her body image. And gold, of course. Nothing like instilling materialism at a young age.
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Yes. I can see how getting a wind serpent would help a thirteen year old girl with her body image. And gold, of course. Nothing like instilling materialism at a young age.
This isn't the post of a crazy person. At least I don't think. I deleted the spam that it referred to.
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I know it was spam. It's so prevalent you just kinda have to laugh at it. After all, most of the spammers that I've seen here, at least, try to have some vague semblance of relating to the thread. That one, not so much.
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They call me Amanda, that being my real name, and "They" being people who know me in person as I don't go around introducing myself in real life as "scribess." 'Cause that would just be strange.
I don't know why I did not think of this earlier. Try this http://www.mvm.com/cs/
It is not perfect for what you are looking for but you can adjust the weight of an illustrated model and see how different they look.
Anyone got good photos of someone at same weight but diff bodyfat %?
After all, most of the spammers that I've seen here, at least, try to have some vague semblance of relating to the thread. That one, not so much.
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