The Fat Loss TroubleshootThis is your place to troubleshoot your fat loss problems from nutrition to training. This section is led by Leigh Peele, author of "The Fat Loss Troubleshoot," the ultimate fat loss manual. If your results have slowed or stalled this is the place to come for advice for all your fat loss needs.
How long will it take to get your deficit up to 35000 calories? 10 weeks? 15? It's still a math thing, even with the last ten. You're body and mind just conspire to make that deficit harder to come by.
How long will it take to get your deficit up to 35000 calories? 10 weeks? 15? It's still a math thing, even with the last ten. You're body and mind just conspire to make that deficit harder to come by.
Thanks LD... I just feel like it takes longer than the math provides.
Lets assume a maintanence of 2000 per day.
2000X7=14000 cals
If I consume 10000 cals for the week, that means I should have lost 1.1 lbs.
The problem is, its not turning out that way. I feel the body becomes more efficent and therefore either slows the rate or stops completely. I know this is why many experts believe in refeeds.....just seems so complicated sometimes!
Thanks LD... I just feel like it takes longer than the math provides.
Lets assume a maintanence of 2000 per day.
2000X7=14000 cals
If I consume 10000 cals for the week, that means I should have lost 1.1 lbs.
The problem is, its not turning out that way. I feel the body becomes more efficent and therefore either slows the rate or stops completely. I know this is why many experts believe in refeeds.....just seems so complicated sometimes!
It's true. You're body subconsciously slows down. You sit more, fidget less, etc.
Also, we never know what our actual numbers are, it's just an estimate.
Refeeds, etc. play into it. Psychologically and physiologically, they effect us. The numbers still work though. The refeed days will have you NOT losing fat due to the extra calories, for instance.
People often overestimate how active they are, as the Go Wear Fit and Body Bugg threads have shown. Based on the longstanding formulas in books and magazines, we are often afraid to lower our calories further, but the GWF and BB has pretty accurately showed people that they are burning very little and have to bump up the activity OR eat less food. The do that and they lose weight again.
I don't have one of those, but after watching a lot of them truly succeed after the realization, then dropping cals further (and adding in NEPA) I tried some of those things, too. I lost fat.
Yeah you can't let the math rule your life, they are just numbers.
If you aren't doing anything overly stupid (all training, no rest, bad food intake, etc) and you aren't seeing results, drop the numbers. Also take into account your size, etc.
Yeah you can't let the math rule your life, they are just numbers.
If you aren't doing anything overly stupid (all training, no rest, bad food intake, etc) and you aren't seeing results, drop the numbers. Also take into account your size, etc.
Heh, it takes me 1200 to lose (with around a 1500 burn, likely) and that's waay below 10x bw. Hell, my maintenance is ~ 10x bw (or less when I have to spend far too much time sitting on my ass, like now).
I usually find that actually I can go as low as I want, I'll simply bonk if it's too low and I'll stall if it's too long at too low. I do pretty decent down to 1000, but under that and it's not a good idea for me, for more than a day here and there.
Which just really means, most of the time, that you can prolly tell what's just too stinkin low to be useful, if you're willing to pay attention to the fact that you're draggin ass hardcore, sleeping like shit, and nobody wants to be around you. (With the caveat, of course, that you're not having ED issues.)
I'd personally say start at maintenance and lower from there, on a general plan.
If you're doing OPT, she gives you the numbers, and I'd recommend sticking to them, just for the sake of buying into the fact that she might have had a reason to set them at that.
Heh, it takes me 1200 to lose (with around a 1500 burn, likely) and that's waay below 10x bw. Hell, my maintenance is ~ 10x bw (or less when I have to spend far too much time sitting on my ass, like now).
I usually find that actually I can go as low as I want, I'll simply bonk if it's too low and I'll stall if it's too long at too low. I do pretty decent down to 1000, but under that and it's not a good idea for me, for more than a day here and there.
Which just really means, most of the time, that you can prolly tell what's just too stinkin low to be useful, if you're willing to pay attention to the fact that you're draggin ass hardcore, sleeping like shit, and nobody wants to be around you. (With the caveat, of course, that you're not having ED issues.)
I'd personally say start at maintenance and lower from there, on a general plan.
If you're doing OPT, she gives you the numbers, and I'd recommend sticking to them, just for the sake of buying into the fact that she might have had a reason to set them at that.
Thanks! Ive already got OPT, just not following the plan.....Im on a different workout routine and carb/calorie cycling. Its working for me, I just wanted to know "how low can you go?", hehe. I guess I can prolly go pretty low...just didnt want to do anything damaging to metabolism.
Thanks! Ive already got OPT, just not following the plan.....Im on a different workout routine and carb/calorie cycling. Its working for me, I just wanted to know "how low can you go?", hehe. I guess I can prolly go pretty low...just didnt want to do anything damaging to metabolism.
I think as long as you do refeeds and take diet breaks (I think Leigh suggests breaks of one week duration every few months?) I don't think you have to wory about "damaging metabolism"
I have played around with my numbers and find that 10.5xbw is giving me a .5-1 lb loss/week if I eat that 6 days a week with one day at 13xbw. My daily activity includes a 2 mile walk and then sedentary job. I lift 3x/week for 30-40 minutes full body and do some cardio 2-3x/week (mod intensity steady state or higher moderate intervals) This is about all I can handle when in a good deficit.
no, I never have. I am 5'2 and currently 122 lbs and definitely carrying more fat than I would like!
That is hard to believe at 122lbs!
I think it gets tricky when youre trying to recomp. This is where I am still not fully knowledgable enough about my body to try. When trying to put on muscle I always gain way too much fat too, and then when cutting, I lose muscle, so Ive never really acheived a true body recomposition. This is what I hope to acheive with carb cycling...we shall see!
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