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Old 03-26-2009, 09:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default NROL and Leigh's Programs?

So I really want to purchase Leigh's book(s). But I am curious if I can use some his techniques while in the middle of Fat Loss I in NROL: Original?

Anyone ever done this?
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Old 03-26-2009, 09:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I made it through FL I and II on a deficit. FL III, nearly impossible. I tried it during the last 6 workouts and I almost passed out. Its up to your own discretion though. NROL workouts can be hard to do on a deficit for a long time. I found that cycling my carbs with refeeds helped alot.
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Old 03-26-2009, 09:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well I run 500 under for 2 days then 500 over maintenance. Basically to keep my metabolism on its toes. But I am stuck for some reason. I need to buy Leigh's books I think.
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Leigh's books will give you a solid foundation of information on the process of fat loss, etc. You can combine that information with whatever program you choose (even NROL, though it's been stated by many people that it's hard to complete NROL and NROL4W at a deficit--it can be done, but it's tough).

Are you certain that you are 500 under and 500 over? It might make more sense right now for you to really dial in on your food intake and be certain that you are taking in what you think you're taking in. You should also look at the rest of the day; do the NROL workouts wipe you out so much that you're hardly moving for the rest of the day (general activity moving)? If that's the case, then your calorie burn probably isn't as high as you think it is, even with the tough NROL workout.

Leigh's stuff is awesome, no doubt, but she'll be the first to tell you to make sure that you're eating (calorie-wise) what you think you're eating and burning what you think you're burning. Those are usually the things that make most people get stuck.
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Leigh is the shizz.
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Leigh's books will give you a solid foundation of information on the process of fat loss, etc. You can combine that information with whatever program you choose (even NROL, though it's been stated by many people that it's hard to complete NROL and NROL4W at a deficit--it can be done, but it's tough).

Are you certain that you are 500 under and 500 over? It might make more sense right now for you to really dial in on your food intake and be certain that you are taking in what you think you're taking in. You should also look at the rest of the day; do the NROL workouts wipe you out so much that you're hardly moving for the rest of the day (general activity moving)? If that's the case, then your calorie burn probably isn't as high as you think it is, even with the tough NROL workout.

Leigh's stuff is awesome, no doubt, but she'll be the first to tell you to make sure that you're eating (calorie-wise) what you think you're eating and burning what you think you're burning. Those are usually the things that make most people get stuck.
My problem might be that I workout LATE at night, go home, take down a some whey. And go to Bed.

Then I am up at 8 am and work till 5:30 to go to my other job from 6pm to 10pm (not everyday).

I will really count the calories down this week. But I was using fit day. Maybe I should just operate at a 500 deficit.

I also apologize to Leigh for referring to her as a him !

I am not to wiped afterwards. I definitely have a ton of energy after those workouts. Just the morning time I am groggy and grumpy. Compared to my usual rise and burst into flames chipperness.

I also think I am going to throw in some HIIT on my off days while still doing MOD after workouts.
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Personally, I'd dial in on your diet and make sure that you really know what you're taking in and be sure that you're burning what you're thinking you're burning (be brutally honest about your activity level for the rest of the day while you're working or during your off time) before you tweak the exercise any more. No sense in adding in more exercise if it's just going to slow you down even further.
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Yeah I am going out this weekend and snagging a scale at target. Really going to get my diet down to EXACT numbers.

I think I am on the right track exercise wise cause I am losing weight I just think I could shed it a bit faster if I can get my food dumb down and simple enough to where its all thought out ahead of time.

Thank you guys.
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If you've not selected a tracking site yet, I'd suggest sparkpeople.com. Once you get your foods in it's straightforward to use.
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