JP Fitness Forums powered by fitness insite  
Google
 
Web forums.jpfitness.com

Go Back   JP Fitness Forums > Fitness > The Fat Loss Troubleshoot
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

The Fat Loss Troubleshoot This is your place to troubleshoot your fat loss problems from nutrition to training. This section is led by Leigh Peele, author of "The Fat Loss Troubleshoot," the ultimate fat loss manual. If your results have slowed or stalled this is the place to come for advice for all your fat loss needs.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-12-2009, 06:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 81
Default What happens if you dont enough veggies? Physically/metabolically speaking?

?
liftlikeamanlooklikeagod is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2009, 07:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
Fat Loss Troubleshooter
 
Leigh P.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,903
Default

Depends. I know a lot who never touch them but take lots of supps and multi's and seem to get by somehow. They get fruit, whole grains, and meat but no veggies or small amounts/mostly starch.

Do I recommend people to get their veg, yeah. Do I think you are going to get "sick" without it if other things are covered? Meh I will say not likely.

It is about the over all, if you don't get protein, do get fats, and don't get good veg/fruit (the average American diet) then yeah, you are probably going to run into problems, particularly if not active.

If you cover everything but just don't get your greens, likely fine.

So question is what do you eat?
Leigh P. is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2009, 08:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
ninjamonkeyqueen
 
Aoife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: City of Dis
Posts: 6,535
Default

I think it's far more detrimental for a vegetarian to not eat her veggies, cuz she's not getting them from many meat sources.
__________________
My Etsy Fe Chick Apparel
tumble log
Aoife in Wonderland
Werkit.com - Providing the most stylish training logs you've ever seen, while retaining all the function you need. Oh yeah!
Aoife is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2009, 09:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
Fat Loss Troubleshooter
 
Leigh P.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,903
Default

tsk tsk
Leigh P. is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2009, 11:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
You mean three DOG moon!
 
Lost Dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: The South Bay!
Posts: 19,237
Default



An "eat your veggies" sign.
__________________
-
-
Lost Dog's Blog

workout log
& fitday

"The wolves spoke to me in a language all their own; it was like German, Mongol, and Bitchin' all mixed together."
Lost Dog is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 03-13-2009, 09:28 AM   #6 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,092
Default

LostDog that sign is great!

how can a vegetarian not eat enough veggies? When I was a vegetarian (in college so not like I had much money/time for food) the majority of what I ate was veggies, legumes, etc.
LaraT is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2009, 09:36 AM   #7 (permalink)
think thrice
 
newdawn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 446
Default

I read an article in a local newspaper this week about some study that said that taking multi-vitamins is not as good as getting vitamins from actual food. go figure.
__________________
To be calm is the highest achievement of the self.

my NROL4W blank workout logs:
http://forums.jpfitness.com/new-rule...kout-logs.html
newdawn is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2009, 10:38 AM   #8 (permalink)
ninjamonkeyqueen
 
Aoife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: City of Dis
Posts: 6,535
Default

There are things you'll have to supplement with, simply because it's relatively hard to get some things. Bs, D… and it doesn't hurt to have the extra.

Remember that things can have fruits/veggies in them… tomato sauce is tomatoes, but some… like a good pasta sauce with chunks of tomatoes in it is likely a better choice than the stuff that comes on a pizza.

frozen and fresh are better than canned. frozen is sometimes better than fresh, depending on where your produce comes from (how long ago was it harvested).

An easy way to get veggies in is to buy 2 bags of something frozen a week. Say peas and broccoli. eat them through the week. next week, get 2 bags of something else, say broccoli and carrots. repeat.

Other option, or in addition, pick up 2 kinds of fresh produce and use them for snacks for the week. broccoli, (baby)carrots, peppers, cherry/grape tomatoes, bananas, grapes, berries…

I've been on long stints of not getting in as many fruits and veggies as I'd like, it's not gonna kill you. But usually my chances of D deficiency (esp if not outside much), iron deficiency, etc usually increased.

If you're vegetarian you need to be more proactive, do more research, be more careful, and be smart about your food choices.
Otherwise, just say you don't eat meat. Cuz those of us who take this more seriously don't like people who don't making us look like weak, anemic fools who can't lift heavy things and have brittle bones.

You can, also, look into getting healthier and better vegetarian choices in the dining hall. A vegetarian on a college campus is not an unusual thing, so you're likely not the only one having issues getting something to eat.

I go to a school which has a total enrollment of under a thousand, and there's still always a salad choice and occasionally veggie burgers and the like. They'd prolly have more if people ate it and asked for it.
__________________
My Etsy Fe Chick Apparel
tumble log
Aoife in Wonderland
Werkit.com - Providing the most stylish training logs you've ever seen, while retaining all the function you need. Oh yeah!
Aoife is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2009, 10:41 AM   #9 (permalink)
Queen of the Princesses!
 
UConnJulie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 7,209
Default

Why would you not want to eat your veggies?

VEGetarian ... means you base your diet on VEGETABLES!!!

When I was vegetarian, I ate mostly veggies and fruits ...some tofu, seitan, tempeh ... some brown rice, whole grain pasta ... and lots of legumes.

If you don't eat vegetables, I'm sorry, you're not really a vegetarian.

Long term health ... I think veggies (and fruits) are crucial ... fiber, antioxidants, vitamins, and probably a bunch of stuff we don't know yet.
__________________
Life's a Journey ... Enjoy the Ride!
UConnJulie is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2009, 10:53 AM   #10 (permalink)
ninjamonkeyqueen
 
Aoife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: City of Dis
Posts: 6,535
Default

ok, so lack of vit C, which is in many many fruits and veggies gives you scurvy. you know, that thing sailors used to get before they started bringing citrus aboard.

lack of fibre, which may not be an issue if you eat enough in your grains, can cause you some serious gi/bowel issues.

lack of iron, since you're not eating meat you need dark greens for, will make you anemic. that's fun, it leaves you totally sapped of energy, and that's the good part.

lack of vit A will affect your eyesight (hence carrots and bunnies jokes, no not the one about their reproduction)

deficiencies in your B complex can include anemia, mental issues, heart issues…

pill vitamins can deliver toxic doses of vits and minerals if you're not careful. it's hard to OD on stuff like D or C, but easier on others. so you'll need to pay attention to what you're getting. but food never has really delivered toxic doses of these things, it's just not concentrated enough.

foods that offer your vitamins and minerals in them also tend to have the stuff that helps absorption. your fat soluble vitamins are high in meats, animal products, and fatty other foods, for instance. this is another reason why the food is better than the pills, and why often the pills need to be taken with food.

I supplement D and Bs, D every day, Bs a time or 2 a week. I take a multi, but usually not daily, only a couple times a week. I used to have to take iron pills, but then I learned how to eat and it's never been a problem since.
__________________
My Etsy Fe Chick Apparel
tumble log
Aoife in Wonderland
Werkit.com - Providing the most stylish training logs you've ever seen, while retaining all the function you need. Oh yeah!
Aoife is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2009, 07:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
memmieleblanc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: SF Bay area
Posts: 16
Default

I don't eat vegetables, at least hardly at all. maybe a heart of romaine per week and a serving (one cup to 1-1/2 cup) of steamed broccoli once or twice per week.
I'm a sucker for mushy broccoli

Otherwise I eat salmon and lean meat, chicken broth, other proteins and incidental fats. I need a lot of protein and I think plant foods are highly overrated.

No, I don't eat fiber. I can't stand the bulky feeling.
memmieleblanc is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:18 PM.

Features ...
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Ad Management by RedTyger