source of carbs

getmovin78 · 03-10-2009, 07:27 AM

This question is in regards to the source of carbs when one is carb cycling and trying to lose fat quickly.

On "low" carb days when I am trying to get 50g of carbs a day, my only source of carbs are veggies.

Since i am carb cycling, I will be eating carbs around the training window and for breakfast, trying to hit about 150g carbs. Besides veggies, does it matter if I get carbs from fruits or starches? I know J. Berardi likes to include fruits and veggies as anytime meals and keep starchy carbs for the PWO window only in his PN program. And OPT remix also varies in the carb source on different days on the program.

So would it enhance my fat loss if I only chose fruits and veggies as my carbs during my higher carb days, or can I have a serving of starches as long as my "net" carbs are consistent?

Not to overthink it or anything......but I know that fructose breaks down differently than complex carbs, and how my muscles and liver use the glyogen varies too with the source of carbs

NOTE: everyday I am in a caloric deficit. On low days, the deficit is bigger, on the higher carb days a little less. So this does not include refeeds, the question is directed towards diet days.

Thanks!

LaraT · 03-10-2009, 09:40 AM

From what I understand on your higher carb days you want some starchy carbs--oats, sweet potato, whole grains, etc

seekingtruth · 03-10-2009, 05:41 PM

Don't overcomplicate it

I have a really bad habit of that!

Remember, fat loss is about calories. So, if you are getting the same amout of calories, no matter what the source (with protien/fats in place), fat loss will be the same.

150 grams of carbs is 600 calories whether it comes from fruit or bread. The starch is better for muscle glycogen and the fruit sugar replenishes liver glycogen. But, that is really not the point.

From a fat loss perspective, remember, the bottom line is calories in, calories out.

seekingtruth · 03-10-2009, 05:42 PM

Thanks to Leigh, I finally realize that fruits and veggies are not "free", damn Weight Watchers

Leigh P. · 03-10-2009, 05:54 PM

Those damn weight watcher points. The amount of headaches and times I have had to explain....

Anyway, on training days you want fuel and replenishment. I think you have my books yes? Its okay if you don't I just thought you did, if you do read the PWO nutrition section in FLTS for more detailed info.

The short is, I like mostly "strach" based carbs around workouts.

getmovin78 · 03-10-2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Leigh P.

Those damn weight watcher points. The amount of headaches and times I have had to explain....

Anyway, on training days you want fuel and replenishment. I think you have my books yes? Its okay if you don't I just thought you did, if you do read the PWO nutrition section in FLTS for more detailed info.

The short is, I like mostly "strach" based carbs around workouts.

yes got the books.

This is exactly what I did, thanks!! I am on the right track.

getmovin78 · 03-10-2009, 08:23 PM

one thing I did want to comment on......I find its easier to stick to a deficit when my food choices are limited. This is why the low carb approach works for me. When I have too many choices, I easily can go over my calories.