The Fat Loss TroubleshootThis is your place to troubleshoot your fat loss problems from nutrition to training. This section is led by Leigh Peele, author of "The Fat Loss Troubleshoot," the ultimate fat loss manual. If your results have slowed or stalled this is the place to come for advice for all your fat loss needs.
Hi everyone I'm new here and have been reading a lot but am not finding the answers to my questions.
Where do I get the Fat Loss Trouble Shoot and MRM? Are they expensive? I recenlty started NROL4W but not sure it's right for me.
A little info to help. I am soon to be 34, ok as of Saturday i'm 34 I am female.
I have had hypothyroid for 10 years. I just started on Armour 3 grains about 2 years ago so needless to say I spent a great deal of time gaining weight. my highest was 254. I am now down to 219. I am 5' 8". and need/want to get down to 150. I work out 3-5 times a week, lifting and doing 30 min on the elip which I can get in about 2.5 miles. I watch what I eat, meaning I do not track it, I find it is too difficult and I really don't seem to have the time or I totally forget to do it.
So how do I go about starting to get my fat loss in gear? Any help suggestions greatly appreciated. In the meantime I'll continue to read what I can here.
Thanks in advance.
Oh see I read the sticky first, and went to the site and thought it must not be right. I didn't want all that stuff. so I guess if I want it I have to spend that much. I wasn't clear. Thank you.
Without talking about the books, there's one thing you need to decide first. Do you want it badly enough to do the tracking? You mention that you work out 3-5 times a week, but don't want to put the time into tracking. So, you're active, and not losing weight. This almost certainly means that you need to start tracking. I can eat relatively healthy foods and maintain. I have to track to lose weight.
At least track for a week or two (very closely) what you're eating. I suspect that will quickly show you that you really do need to track.
Without talking about the books, there's one thing you need to decide first. Do you want it badly enough to do the tracking? You mention that you work out 3-5 times a week, but don't want to put the time into tracking. So, you're active, and not losing weight. This almost certainly means that you need to start tracking. I can eat relatively healthy foods and maintain. I have to track to lose weight.
At least track for a week or two (very closely) what you're eating. I suspect that will quickly show you that you really do need to track.
X2 on the food logging. I detest it but I find it absolutely essential in order to get anything done. It's a pain at first but if you persevere it becomes more of a habit and is a lot easier.
Also want to second that Leigh's package is worth every penny. The information is valuable even the bits I'd never use.
Ok, so lets say I start trying to track stuff. How on earth do you track a meal that you make for your family? I don't always just cook chicken or salmon, there are dishes with different things included, so how do you track that kind of thing? Breakfast and lunch are not so difficult, dinner however is a different story.
Nutritiondata.com allows you to create recipes from various foods so you can analyze the nutritional information. I believe they use the same database as fitday.com.
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Ok, so lets say I start trying to track stuff. How on earth do you track a meal that you make for your family? I don't always just cook chicken or salmon, there are dishes with different things included, so how do you track that kind of thing? Breakfast and lunch are not so difficult, dinner however is a different story.
Thank you.
Unfortunately, you will have either to forget about that kind of meal for yourself (meaning, you prepare that meal for your family and you eat something else) or you prepare that same meal on the side with everything weighed and measured for yourself.
Yes, it is that boring and time consuming... But it IS the biggest part of the secret of losing weight.
I exercised for a long time and wasn't losing anything appreciable. I had to track. And, when I was ready to do that I did. Now it is no big deal b/c I'm used to it. Really, it was only the first week or two that it took some time to get used to.
One thing that no one's mentioned is that not only do you have to track your food, but your exercise. People tend to overestimate how many calories they're burning. And, especially if you have been working out for some time, you may be surprised at how many calories you're not burning. Your body adapts very quickly. A heart rate monitor is the only way I know of to be accurate with calorie burn. Also, try mixing it up....what else is available to you besides the elliptical?
How about breaking your goals down somewhat? Like, losing 5 lbs instead of 50? Completing Stage 1 of NR? Tracking just today.
Best wishes...
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P.S. Tracking when you make a family meal is a matter of math. You have to add up all the calories, etc for the entire meal, then divide by your portion. For example, if you use a pound of chicken, 2 cups of rice, two cans of soup, an onion and 3 cups of broccoli in the recipe and you eat 1/4 of it, you know how much you had.
Usually a recipe has "number of servings" and that is a good guideline. Divide the recipe nutritional information by number of servings. It's very easy from there...if you have 1.5 servings you know exactly what you had.
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Just to be a pian in the butt. I think you can lose weight/fat without tracking. The simplest (but perhaps hardest) is a low carb diet. One variation, the so called (at least here ) Adam's diet see FAQs- to be accurate it is not so low carb or doesn't have to be. I found it was not that difficult after the first two weeks, but I can live on meat easily. I found that doing this kind of helped me to pay attention to what I eat.
If I want to lose fat, I do not need to do low carb actually just reduced and get rid of the carbs that I tend to over eat on - for bread, rice and pasta. It will not kill me to eat fruits (carbs) because most of the food I eat has a high saiety.
I would not be able to track so I figured out something that worked for me.
So if you do not want to track why not explore other options that are likely to work for you. Things that work for others may not work for you- see what does
hope that helps
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I have posted somewhere before about what I do for me and my family (husband and 2 small children).
Instead of casserole type meals, I keep things simple ...
Protein (chicken, turkey, fish, pork) ...
A starch (potatoes, sweet potatoes, squash, rice, etc.)
Veggies (green beans, asparagus, broccoli, etc.)
Since I have food intolerances, sometimes I make different things for me and for them ... like I'll make them a pasta alfredo side dish (my hubby's favorite) and I'll make butternut squash for me (and them if they want it). But the protein and the veggie are always the same.
I also make things like taco turkey ... ground turkey seasoned for tacos. They have theirs in flour tortillas, I'll have mine over a salad. Or turkey sloppy joe ... I'll have mine over a small baked potato, and they'll have theirs on rolls.
HTH.
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How about breaking your goals down somewhat? Like, losing 5 lbs instead of 50? Completing Stage 1 of NR? Tracking just today.
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I guess I'm not good at small goals, I can only see the end result and am tired of waiting for it to get here. I have little patience, especially now that I feel so much better on my thyroid medication. I am still very angry I think at my PCP for not pointing me in the right direction for so many years. Instead it was ok let's up your dose of Levoxyl, now lets go down, I yo-yo'd for so long. It wasn't until I started work in a doctors office referring people to specialist I started doing my own research and found the best endo in Indiana did things start to change for me. And now I feel trapped in this fat body and am sooo angry it could have been prevented. Now I just want it to be gone, I'm done and tired of waiting. I know how this sounds but cant help myself.
Thanks for all the advice I really appreciate it. I'll give fitday a gander. I think tracking is my only option at this point since I've not been losing the weight for the last couple of months.
I have posted somewhere before about what I do for me and my family (husband and 2 small children).
Instead of casserole type meals, I keep things simple ...
Protein (chicken, turkey, fish, pork) ...
A starch (potatoes, sweet potatoes, squash, rice, etc.)
Veggies (green beans, asparagus, broccoli, etc.)
Since I have food intolerances, sometimes I make different things for me and for them ... like I'll make them a pasta alfredo side dish (my hubby's favorite) and I'll make butternut squash for me (and them if they want it). But the protein and the veggie are always the same.
I also make things like taco turkey ... ground turkey seasoned for tacos. They have theirs in flour tortillas, I'll have mine over a salad. Or turkey sloppy joe ... I'll have mine over a small baked potato, and they'll have theirs on rolls.
HTH.
Thanks Julie for that. I'll have to keep that in mind apprecitae the tips. they should come in very handy in the future.
Roughly 2 years I think. I was so upset about the number I refused to get on a scale. I started to lose soon after I started on Armour Thyroid. that will be 2 years ago this summer. At that office visit the scale said 254. I really started working out in October of 08, joined the gym where my husband is employed and have been trying to go 3 times a week.
That's a good pace. So try to lose the last 70 in about 70 weeks (a year and a half). A pound a week is definitely doable.
I haven't read MRM but I have read FLTS. I have read a lot of books about fat loss - Leigh's book is the best out there. It's something you will always be able to use. In my opinion it's worth the investment.
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That's a good pace. So try to lose the last 70 in about 70 weeks (a year and a half). A pound a week is definitely doable.
I haven't read MRM but I have read FLTS. I have read a lot of books about fat loss - Leigh's book is the best out there. It's something you will always be able to use. In my opinion it's worth the investment.
Therein lies my issue. I don't want to wait a year and a half. I can't. That is what is so infuriating to me. i want to scream and cry just at the thought of it. Just the thought alone makes me want to throw in the towel and say F it.
Interesting point to add here. I used to hang out on a weight loss board a fair bit. There were always women who showed up, doing the latest fad diet, and dropping 5 pounds the first few weeks. These were all women like myself (with well over 100 lbs to lose). Most of them couldn't stick it when they only lost a pound a week, eventually not posting at all. A great number of them wandered back in months later, having gained most of it back, but once again starting the newest fad diet.
Even though I've struggled recently with my own loss, I still have an average loss of over 1-1/2 pounds a week. They eventually add up to quite respectable losses. You say you don't want to wait 70 weeks, however, if you keep going how you're going now (working out, not losing), where will you be in 70 weeks?
Just something to think about. I certainly don't have the answer, just lots of questions.
Interesting point to add here. I used to hang out on a weight loss board a fair bit. There were always women who showed up, doing the latest fad diet, and dropping 5 pounds the first few weeks. These were all women like myself (with well over 100 lbs to lose). Most of them couldn't stick it when they only lost a pound a week, eventually not posting at all. A great number of them wandered back in months later, having gained most of it back, but once again starting the newest fad diet.
Even though I've struggled recently with my own loss, I still have an average loss of over 1-1/2 pounds a week. They eventually add up to quite respectable losses. You say you don't want to wait 70 weeks, however, if you keep going how you're going now (working out, not losing), where will you be in 70 weeks?
Just something to think about. I certainly don't have the answer, just lots of questions.
I do not want to do a fad diet, I've been down that road, I do not want gain anything back. I totally get what you are saying and like I said it's difficult for me to see past today, right now. I've never thought about it like that before, but I can see I'd end up like my aunt who is well over 500 lbs. I think that scares me the most espically since i've been told all my life "you look just like your Aunt". I know how bad it sounds when I say I don't want to wait and I know for fact I really dont have a choice it's just soooo hard for me when I have in my head what I want to look like but when I look it the mirror that image does not even seem possible. I just have to learn to take it one day at a time, and I think I'll be depeding upon a lot of people like you to help me, if you are willing. Thank you!
I just have to learn to take it one day at a time, and I think I'll be depeding upon a lot of people like you to help me, if you are willing.
That's what this place is all about.
I'm not saying you can't do it sooner but think of what a great accomplishment it will be in July of 2010 when someone says to you "Wow, you look marvelous." Especially if they use a Billy Crystal impersonation.
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I'm not saying you can't do it sooner but think of what a great accomplishment it will be in July of 2010 when someone says to you "Wow, you look marvelous." Especially if they use a Billy Crystal impersonation.
MOJO, I feel your pain. I'll also be 34 in a couple months and have 40-50 lbs to lose. I have been exercising and watching what I eat and not losing ONE pound. I'm doing great at maintaining 201! So, I also posted on this board for the first time a few days ago. I really have learned a lot and appreciate all of the advice that I have been given. I know how it feels to want it all gone right now! But, I just keep thinking that, even though it may be a struggle, I will get there. When I do, I will hopefully be able to help someone else and understand their struggle. Good Luck!
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