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The Fat Loss Troubleshoot This is your place to troubleshoot your fat loss problems from nutrition to training. This section is led by Leigh Peele, author of "The Fat Loss Troubleshoot," the ultimate fat loss manual. If your results have slowed or stalled this is the place to come for advice for all your fat loss needs.

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Old 12-28-2008, 07:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello,

I am debating on purchasing the fat loss troubleshoot plan, however, I do not eat dairy or meat. I do eat fish at times and eggs.

Would it still be plausible for me to do this?
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Old 12-29-2008, 08:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Leigh responded to someone else's question in this thread:
Questions about the new material

She said that if you're vegan and trying to follow the meal plans that are laid out, that it would suck for you (she didn't make that same statement referring to vegetarian, though, so I'm thinking that might be ok). You can still follow the programs without following the meal plans, though; the meal plans are in there just to make it a little easier for people.

She did say, too, that she's got plans to do something for vegetarians and vegans in the future.

I'd say that you could definitely still follow FLTS but that you might have to modify the meal plans a little to accomodate the things you don't eat.
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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There is no reason you can't use FLTS, OPT, META, or OPT REMIX if veg or vegan. The only thing you will have a problem with are the meal plan SUGGESTIONS for FLTS.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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great, thank you so much for your responses. I was just worried that if the macros are high in protein I would have trouble hitting them.
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Old 12-29-2008, 07:23 PM   #5 (permalink)
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there's plenty of good vegan sources of protein. Prolly even some stuff ya don't normally think of as being protein-riffic. Plus, it all adds up, and something that seems to not have much added to other things that don't seem to have much can make for a good amount of protein for the day.
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Old 12-30-2008, 08:35 AM   #6 (permalink)
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would you mind posting some of those sources?

other than the obvious.. tofu, vega, hemp, rice, pea.

i would really appreciate it.
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Old 12-30-2008, 09:03 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I have been reading the troubleshoot.. almost done.. and so far my biggest problem is the pre-workout meal of protein and carbs. If I would be at home I can easily eat some egg whites, etc. (I still eat eggs) but since I go to the gym straight after work and don't consume whey, I'm out of ideas.
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There are non-why protein powders, I believe. Would one of those work?
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Yes I could definitely utilize one of those .. can I also have a raw bar which has fat and carbs in it? (fruit and nut bar)
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Lana...I'm vegan and other than the "obvious" there is seitan, tempeh (I avoid too high in calories) artichoke protein (it's called nitrofusion), also TVP
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There're egg, soy, and casein protein powders, although not sure what your stance on casein is. A lot of people prefer egg over whey anyway, when it comes to taste and/or bloat factor.

As for other protein sources, there's obviously egg and legumes. If you're ok with egg and prepackaged convenience food, there's all sorts of meat substitute type of foods out there that happen to be mainly protein with minimal carb and fat. The stuff from Boca, Gardenburger, MorningStar Farms, Amy's, Ives, Quorn, Lightlife, etc all fall into this category, including items to substitute into recipes for meat strips or ground meat (and even if you were vegan, there are vegan items from many of these as well).


Grains and veggies can actually have pretty decent protein amounts, although not necessarily considered your "protein" food. In aggregate, it comes to about 1/4 to 1/3 of protein intake, potentially.
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Lana...I'm vegan and other than the "obvious" there is seitan, tempeh (I avoid too high in calories) artichoke protein (it's called nitrofusion), also TVP
I've found that Primal Strips are also a great on-hand source of protein... not sure if either of you have tried them
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Old 12-30-2008, 08:33 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I know I've tried a few kinds of soy jerky not sure if primal strips were one of them...
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great, thank you for all the suggestions!
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I use a pea protein powder called "Gemma Protein" which I get from trueprotein.com
Completely vegan. Inexpensive. Tastes better than rice protein powder.
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This is an excellent tasting pea protein:
http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/e...jsp?id=OL-1039
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