The Fat Loss TroubleshootThis is your place to troubleshoot your fat loss problems from nutrition to training. This section is led by Leigh Peele, author of "The Fat Loss Troubleshoot," the ultimate fat loss manual. If your results have slowed or stalled this is the place to come for advice for all your fat loss needs.
Diana, I'm sorry you are hurt. I hope you have someone who can help you cook.
I'm not starving, but I am hungry and have plans to make wonderful things after the challenge is over. I've figured out all the calories in everything I want to make, what my maintenance calories should be, and have a good plan on how/when to eat already in the works. But, nope, I'm not thinking of food at all .
Karen - I love that. I feel the same way! I can't wait to eat more and not eat the same thing all day. This has been really good and I hope I have learned new habits. It's actually been easier than I thought it would be. I'm just ready to eat some more food! And a variety of foods. I love that you've figured everything out! We're almost there!! Think how far we've come. :-)
Does anyone else just REALLY want to eat??Hope everyone is having a great LAST week!!
Joy
I'm on a 3.5 day medical clear liquid fast (pre 10 yr checkup colonoscophy). Fasting really puts eating, nibbling, cheating, hunger in perspective. I have not been hungry. About 6 times I saw food (in kitchen at work there was yummy cherry danish; at home the pistachios are sitting on the coffee table calling my name...) but due to a "medical fast" there is no cheating possible. "NO CHEATING POSSIBLE really calms my cravings in a second!!! I wish I had the same attitude when dieting!!! And it makes me appreciate ANY food so much!
I'm on a 3.5 day medical clear liquid fast (pre 10 yr checkup colonoscophy). Fasting really puts eating, nibbling, cheating, hunger in perspective. I have not been hungry. About 6 times I saw food (in kitchen at work there was yummy cherry danish; at home the pistachios are sitting on the coffee table calling my name...) but due to a "medical fast" there is no cheating possible. "NO CHEATING POSSIBLE really calms my cravings in a second!!! I wish I had the same attitude when dieting!!! And it makes me appreciate ANY food so much!
Wow I've never heard of that before. Your doctor told you not to eat for 3.5 days?? That's crazy. I don't get it. What kind of doctor? That would be so hard!!
OUCH! Diana, you bought yourself a good excuse not to cook or type! Could your hubby maybe fix up a big batch of something like chili or a nutritious soup for the next couple days?
Joy, I've been feeling an increasing gnawing hunger... mostly have been able to ignore it, but it is certainly there and somewhat on my mind. So I guess you could say I am hungry and I do want to eat as well.
I did do my cheat day yesterday, but it was a planned one and totally clean... and not even up to maintenance calories if you include exercise. I'm guessing that between water aerobics and two half mile walks and one short 15 minute session of stationary bike, I burnt 700 or so calories. At least the HRM gave me 100 for each walk and 200 for the bike. I'm sure water aerobics, even though I am adapted to it, burns something for the hour. Water has a lot of resistance.
I had a bad pounding headache again, and ended up fixing pancakes for dinner instead of eating the fish/quinoa salad I had prepared, in hopes yet more carbs would help. It didn't. Now the quinoa is in the freezer for the end of this week and the salad will make a nice low carb meal today so no biggie.
I guess that answers the question of whether more carbs help the headaches. I had a high GI/GL day the day before, so it's not a carb issue. Not a dehydration issue either, I drank 30 cups of water yesterday! Carbs must've made me thirsty or something.
So the hunger is present. I fixed the protein pumpkin pancakes again this morning, even though they are not as strictly low carb as I normally do on my low carb days, just because they do seem to have that quality of satisfying me longer.
Hubby is sweet though! Out of the blue last night as I was laying on the couch cradling my pounding head and trying to pay attention to the 49'ers game (good game, even though we didn't win), he said he was really proud of me of sticking to it and keeping this deficit.
I do get hungry sometimes, but doing the single-meal really seems good for me mentally. I'm not in the challenge, so I haven't been doing it on weekends (so I'm on for 4 days Mon through Thurs, then off for 3) and I feel more relaxed when I'm on the program. I don't have to think about food other than how much casserole to eat now or later... in fact I have a serving left still for today but I'm not that hungry.
It's a lot harder to rationalize a little of this or that, and it's harder to justify adding 100 kcals here or there, when you have your exact food already laid out for you. I like that. I actually found myself missing the OBM this past weekend. However, as we always go out Sundays for dinner with my parents, and tend to eat out on Saturdays pretty frequently, I don't think my H and family would take well to me saying no just because I want to eat my own food. They're patient and supportive, but I also have to have a limit to how much this can intrude on "normal" life... does that make sense?
Diana... OUCH! I hope your finger heals quickly, and in the meantime you can get someone else to cook!
LOL about wanting to eat... yeah, I've been having that feeling. Like Cynthia, though... I really am HUNGRY a lot more these last few days. I think for me that's mostly because I've been stepping up the exercise more than I had been since I started working with my trainer again.
Overall, I've felt that this challenge has been a wonderful experience for me. It's taught me a lot about myself and what I'm capable of. In all honesty, I really haven't followed the *traditional* OBM idea by eating the same thing all day long, nor have I always prepared everything ahead of time, but for me the key has been PLANNING what I was going to eat and following through with that. That's something that I've never managed to do consistently before, and now I realize just how easy it makes things.... so why haven't I been doing it all along?
I've also discovered that I really don't need nearly as much food as I thought I did, and that food does not have to be the center of my existence, kwim? For a long time I've felt as though I am constantly waiting for the next meal and that I spend way too much time thinking about food.... but now I don't find myself doing that nearly as much. I truly am listening to my body's cues about when to eat and for the most part only eating when I can't hold off the hunger any longer. I'm not eating so much out of HABIT as I am out of HUNGER. I love it! I'm so thankful to Leigh for running this challenge, and it's been a great experience sharing it with all of you!
"As far as (healthy) eating, either do it, or don't. Same issues repeated over and over is just insanity. We either commit to the endeavor or pay lip-service to it. This is the hardest part of the whole process, and it needs to be practiced more than the actual physical training. It's mind training." ~ Matt Thorne
"The reason that most people fail instead of succeed is that they trade what they want most for what they want at the moment."
LOL about wanting to eat... yeah, I've been having that feeling. Like Cynthia, though... I really am HUNGRY a lot more these last few days. I think for me that's mostly because I've been stepping up the exercise more than I had been since I started working with my trainer again.
I think the added training would surely increase the hunger!
Just doing my regular water aerobics and with mild walking after and a little bit of stationary bike probably burns close to 800 calories. HRM gives me about 100 calories per half mile o' walking and 200 for the 15 minutes of easy bike. The HRM doesn't work consistently in water, but I tried it a while back and got in the neighborhood of 400 for my water aerobics class. So you add that in on top of a 900 calorie deficit and suddenly, you have a 1700 calorie deficit for the day. WHEW! Well, that's why I kept my weekly cheat days in for the challenge. And also why I'm doing different milder activities rather than swimming a half mile after class!
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Overall, I've felt that this challenge has been a wonderful experience for me. It's taught me a lot about myself and what I'm capable of. In all honesty, I really haven't followed the *traditional* OBM idea by eating the same thing all day long, nor have I always prepared everything ahead of time, but for me the key has been PLANNING what I was going to eat and following through with that. That's something that I've never managed to do consistently before, and now I realize just how easy it makes things.... so why haven't I been doing it all along?
I'd say it's been wonderful for me mentally... not quite so much physically, thanks to the headaches. The mental part and discipline is the toughest, so that's why I like these kinds of challenges. And I agree, though I've not done the OBM, the meal planning has really been a help. I have it printed out, in the kitchen and I know what I'm eating. And I still double-batch cook a lot, because that saves me time.
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I've also discovered that I really don't need nearly as much food as I thought I did, and that food does not have to be the center of my existence, kwim? For a long time I've felt as though I am constantly waiting for the next meal and that I spend way too much time thinking about food.... but now I don't find myself doing that nearly as much. I truly am listening to my body's cues about when to eat and for the most part only eating when I can't hold off the hunger any longer. I'm not eating so much out of HABIT as I am out of HUNGER. I love it! I'm so thankful to Leigh for running this challenge, and it's been a great experience sharing it with all of you!
For me, I do need more food, my body is just not in sync with the calculated level of the challenge, but calculators are averages, and one can't always count on them.
But I think I could do with less food than I had previously thought. And I have learned that I can live with a bit of hunger. It's not been a bad thing to know that!
Still and all... I'm looking forward to the end. Hubby and I like to go to a special restaurant for our anniversary and we put that off, so I could keep on track for the challenge. So once the challenge is done, I will figure out what I need to do to put my cheat day on a Wednesday one week (since the restaurant is closed Mondays), and we'll go feast in fine style. I actually usually find that I choose something pretty healthy anyway, like their Indian Salmon (w/spinach, tomato and huckleberry puree) and their desserts may be rich, but they are TINY! Although, just checked the monthly entree menu and pistachio encrusted halibut with cranberry mustard is sounding REALLY good!
OK, enough with the food talk, I'm making myself hungrier, LOL! And I still need to do a bit of exercise and some food shopping.
I do get hungry sometimes, but doing the single-meal really seems good for me mentally. I'm not in the challenge, so I haven't been doing it on weekends (so I'm on for 4 days Mon through Thurs, then off for 3) and I feel more relaxed when I'm on the program. I don't have to think about food other than how much casserole to eat now or later... in fact I have a serving left still for today but I'm not that hungry.
It's a lot harder to rationalize a little of this or that, and it's harder to justify adding 100 kcals here or there, when you have your exact food already laid out for you. I like that. I actually found myself missing the OBM this past weekend. However, as we always go out Sundays for dinner with my parents, and tend to eat out on Saturdays pretty frequently, I don't think my H and family would take well to me saying no just because I want to eat my own food. They're patient and supportive, but I also have to have a limit to how much this can intrude on "normal" life... does that make sense?
I think that is a fantastic idea! Doing it during the week. I think I might have to steal that. I really do like this eating plan. I just need a break sometimes. Half and half would be perfect!
Diana... OUCH! I hope your finger heals quickly, and in the meantime you can get someone else to cook!
LOL about wanting to eat... yeah, I've been having that feeling. Like Cynthia, though... I really am HUNGRY a lot more these last few days. I think for me that's mostly because I've been stepping up the exercise more than I had been since I started working with my trainer again.
Overall, I've felt that this challenge has been a wonderful experience for me. It's taught me a lot about myself and what I'm capable of. In all honesty, I really haven't followed the *traditional* OBM idea by eating the same thing all day long, nor have I always prepared everything ahead of time, but for me the key has been PLANNING what I was going to eat and following through with that. That's something that I've never managed to do consistently before, and now I realize just how easy it makes things.... so why haven't I been doing it all along?
I've also discovered that I really don't need nearly as much food as I thought I did, and that food does not have to be the center of my existence, kwim? For a long time I've felt as though I am constantly waiting for the next meal and that I spend way too much time thinking about food.... but now I don't find myself doing that nearly as much. I truly am listening to my body's cues about when to eat and for the most part only eating when I can't hold off the hunger any longer. I'm not eating so much out of HABIT as I am out of HUNGER. I love it! I'm so thankful to Leigh for running this challenge, and it's been a great experience sharing it with all of you!
I have discovered the same things! I hope I can keep it going once this program is over. I've definitely realized I don't need as much food as I thought I did. I too think about food constantly. It's such a hard habit to break but hopefully this got me started. Listening to our bodies instead of eating out of habit is a great way to put it. This really has been such a great experience!
Wow I've never heard of that before. Your doctor told you not to eat for 3.5 days?? That's crazy. I don't get it. What kind of doctor? That would be so hard!!
Gastroenterologist doctor.
Fasting is easier than dieting to me.
Colonoscophy didn't work last year, so double medicine dose this year, and 3.5 day fast. It's been fine. I've really been enjoying hot cider and when was the last time you drank 8 ounce glass of orange juice? Plus, I'm gonna treat myself to a nice Masala Dosa at an Indian restaurant this weekend Sunday after OBM ends! My calories are gonna be pretty low this week because of the fast, so I can splurge with Indian food.
Diana,
Hope you heal perfectly. And have some fun being the patient!
I don't want to ruin my luck, but I have a history of counting food, exercising hard, and losing .5 to 1 pound per month. I think this month should be great results. I hope it continues. I have liked the OBM when I do make a casserole and planning ahead also has relieved food stress. The concept of this is what you can eat and you can't eat anything else really is very successful for results.
I've really begun to enjoy foam roller and stretching mobility exercises too! A few more days to go, pals!
Thanks for the well wishes everybody. I've got willing cooks around here to help--food may not be as compatiblr with my eating hsbits and challenge but still very doable. I also previous to my little mishap made a double batch of Leigh's soup and a lasagna for me to have during the week. I'll switch those to family dinners nights hubby workd late and plan on sandwiches or cereal or some such instead during day.
Should work out fine.
I'm sore today. Could have been a lot worse. I do have to say thst new knife of mine cuts really well.
I'm getting hungry too at times.
I like Bytsy's idea of doing this 4 days/week. Good suggestions everybody.
Gastroenterologist doctor.
Fasting is easier than dieting to me.
Colonoscophy didn't work last year, so double medicine dose this year, and 3.5 day fast. It's been fine. I've really been enjoying hot cider and when was the last time you drank 8 ounce glass of orange juice? Plus, I'm gonna treat myself to a nice Masala Dosa at an Indian restaurant this weekend Sunday after OBM ends! My calories are gonna be pretty low this week because of the fast, so I can splurge with Indian food.
So what is everyone doing when this is all finished? Continuing? taking a week or two off?
Since I've pretty much been dieting this entire year I think I will be done for the year. I want to keep working out of course but I think I'll eat at my maintenance and not diet down. I will still want to lose about 5 more pounds but I think that'll have to be for another time.
I think I have over trained. It is hard to get my heart rate up even on really hard intervals. I need a break. So I'm thinking a week off from training and then slowing working it back in, taking at least 2 days off a week. I will hopefully incorporate New Rules of Lifting in somehow.
Hopefully Leigh will write a 'what do I do now' post. hint hint!
Well, before I started this, I had done a couple weeks of low carb, then the Cheat To Lose priming phase... so essentially 5 weeks without a cheat. And if I'd known about the aggressive deficit on the first day I'd posted, I would've had second thoughts for sure about doing it, as if anything, my body needed a break, rather than more calorie restriction. But once I said I was in, I was in.
Mentally, I wanted to get myself out of the "closed pool blues" and I did that. So when the challenge ends, I plan to raise calorie levels a bit, closer to 2000 a day or perhaps even up to maintenance levels for a week to recharge and see how that goes. I just feel like my metabolism is slowing... I felt like I was just about to keel over in the grocery store an hour ago. Couldn't concentrate on what the cashier was saying to me.
And every bad thing in the store was calling my name! From candy, to Little Debbie, to smoked salmon (Won't buy at Albertson's, theirs has sugar and corn syrup in, no-no for sure on my low carb days.), to nuts, yogurt, fruit, you name it.
I will have a nice dinner out with hubby as mentioned once the challenge is done... but I'm not planning on any kind of outrageous Thanksgiving feast.
One thing I am going to do... save up so I can have Julie Keen do a program for me. Can't spend right now, need studded tires for the car shortly and then Christmas is coming, but I'd sure like to try working with her next year.
Etana, I'm envious. No Indian restaurant in our little town, sigh! We don't have much for good ethnic food here. I suppose it's good for my waistline, but I miss it.
OK... confession time. Totally blew the deficit yesterday. I got tired and the headache was growing. I resisted at the store OK, but came home and felt desperately hungry and I ate a small handful of cashews. Then I resorted to my emergency meal plan. And I was still HUNGRY after. And I just kept eating the nuts until I'd had five handfuls. Then I had some protein powder with milk. Tried to stay awake, couldn't. Crashed into bed at 7PM and slept for 14 hours. Woke up once in the night, hot... (probably because it was kind of humid from the rain yesterday) and cracked a window, then slept on.
I figured out roughly what I ate and it came to maintenance calories, about 2500. I did not get my gallon and a half of water in either... makes a difference when you aren't awake to drink it! At least I kept my low carb day low carb...
I feel bad, but all I can do is make the rest of the week better, so my meal plan is in place and I'm OK today I think.
JOy-
i made those bars today and i must have done something wrong bc they are SOOOO dry and just not good to me
i used fiber one
and ON rocky road protein powder
they are just ok and i will eat them but i dont care for them? did u like yours? and were they dry? what pp did u use?
OK... confession time. Totally blew the deficit yesterday. I got tired and the headache was growing. I resisted at the store OK, but came home and felt desperately hungry and I ate a small handful of cashews. Then I resorted to my emergency meal plan. And I was still HUNGRY after. And I just kept eating the nuts until I'd had five handfuls. Then I had some protein powder with milk. Tried to stay awake, couldn't. Crashed into bed at 7PM and slept for 14 hours. Woke up once in the night, hot... (probably because it was kind of humid from the rain yesterday) and cracked a window, then slept on.
I figured out roughly what I ate and it came to maintenance calories, about 2500. I did not get my gallon and a half of water in either... makes a difference when you aren't awake to drink it! At least I kept my low carb day low carb...
I feel bad, but all I can do is make the rest of the week better, so my meal plan is in place and I'm OK today I think.
Cynthia
pretty good "binge" in my opinion: nuts and protein powder. And then you counted it, even better! I congratulate you!!!!
I think you should congratulate yourself with a nice full quart of water!
Hey Joy - I am doing OPT, I started when the challenge started so I am going to finish that out. After that, I'm not so sure. But maybe, just maybe, Leigh will hear our pleas for more!
JOy-
i made those bars today and i must have done something wrong bc they are SOOOO dry and just not good to me
i used fiber one
and ON rocky road protein powder
they are just ok and i will eat them but i dont care for them? did u like yours? and were they dry? what pp did u use?
Oh no! I used Designer Whey - Chocolate. That is weird. I wonder what you did differently. Mine were not that dry. Especially when I heated them up. You used milk, egg whites, and a banana?
Oh no! I used Designer Whey - Chocolate. That is weird. I wonder what you did differently. Mine were not that dry. Especially when I heated them up. You used milk, egg whites, and a banana?
i did everything the same but what i wrote up above with the pp and fiber one
they were sorta dry and spongy like alot of pp things are i guess..
i need to get bsn again bc i find it cooks the best
I thought I'd pop in with a little update on my injury. I had a followup with PCP yesterday and he's unhappy with how urgent care handled things. Long story won't go into details now just wanting to vent a little. I see a hand surgeon later today so hopefully will know more later.
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Diana! I'm so sorry to hear about your accident ... hope it heals super-fast! Are you in one of those funky splints with the elastics?
All urgent care did was give me a finger brace. My hand was hurting quite a bit so work added a tight ace wrap to hand and wrist. That helped a lot so I don't think it was immobilized enough to begin with. I have an order for a splint but couldn't get it yesterday the place doesn't take drop in's after 4 pm. I was po'd. I could get one this morning but at this point might as well wait and see what surgeon advises.
I'm in a much better frame of mind today than yesterday. Pain is much better now I also got some percocet yesterday that helps. I should have gone in earlier but I just thought I was just being a wuss.
I'm not planning on posting another challenge update as I won't have anything new to add. My priorities need to be elsewhere right now.
I will be back to check on everybody though. Just a few more days guys. Stay strong. I hope everyone's doing well. It's been so quiet.
You're all doing really well!
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