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Hi all! Haven't posted in a couple months but your last round of advice really helped me, so I'm back. After a few weeks of a sorta layoff of lifting, The last couple of weeks I have suddenly jumped back into Heavy lifting 3x a week and minimum cardio of 60-75 mins a day.
I am "training" my husband at the gym and so I end up going in the morning to run 60 mins or so and than go back at night to heavy lift with him for 45 mins or so and maybe a 20-30 walk/elliptical/recumbent bike (keep that one verrrry easy and slow for me)3x and than a second bout of 45 mins of cardio with HIM, a couple times a week, also keep it easy for me. Overall it might seem a bit much. Well the result was I got on the scale yesterday for the first time in about a week and half and "gained" 5lbs!!!!
EEEEKKKKK! I have heard in the past that sometimes the body can hold onto water at times like this, etc... Now, tell me the truth, is that total and utter BS and should I be panicking and go back to tracking everything that goes into my mouth. Overall I am pretty healthy. Not like chicken breast and broccoli ClEAN, but pretty darn healthy.
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Don't get too upset. That tends to happen. Especially since you've started lifting heavier.
I am concerned that you're doing a whole LOT of cardio and seem to be overtraining.
You don't mention much about how your diet looks. Do you have any idea how many calories you intake during a normal day and how many you should be taking in? I strongly suggest you figure this info out first. Please be careful of getting too obsessive about you're weight. I know I may be stepping out of line by saying that, but I've had personal experiences with my wife and I see a few things about what you say that concerns me. Just be careful, please.
Marykaa and gymrat thanks, thats good news.
gymrat, your so sweet. I am 36 now, between the ages of 12-20 I had a major eating disorder with 2 also major, longterm hospitlizations. I am so good with respect to that. I have been to the darkside and back. Thank you for being concerned, really!
I don't know if you remember me from before but basically I am 5'5, was 135 a couple weeks ago, now 140. I am a "runner" at heart. A very slow runner, but a runner still. My bodyfat seems on the highside no matter where I go on the exercise or food side. I am mid 20's for bodyfat. I am "muscular" for a girl and one of those few that can "bulk" fairly easily. Soccer legs and all that. Its just kinda a thin layer of fat over all my muscle that seems to keep me kinda "chunky" looking, imo. I look good in clothes, its just a bikini or naked that I don't like. I don't like skinny, skinny girls or overly muscular physiques, imo.
I have off and on tracked my intake into fitday.
I naturally tend to between 1500-2000. I have sorta an auto shut off valve for any sorta junk or overeating, so I'm lucky there. I just don't like tracking all the time. So I stopped but I guess I'll do it again. I don't get obssessive about it though and as for my weight it just was kinda a shocker and was hoping it was more related to the sudden onslaught of lifting and cardio. As for the overtraining, it really is more getting to the gym for the 2 time for hubby's sake. I don't have an issue though if I were to read a mag while literally sitting on the bike next to him, I just thought that looked kinda funny. Anyway, thoughts?
Thanks for understanding I really wasn't trying to get out of line, just concerned about people that may be in line to go through what my wife (and subsequently myself) went through.
I honestly wouldn't worry about the weight gain. I notice my weight can fluctuate anywhere from 1-5 lbs in a given week.
Sounds like you've got your diet pretty well in line for yourself. You know about and have used fit day.
Oohh, gymrat, sorry to hear not only about your wife but yourself! Hope all is well with you guys now. Its one of the hardest things to have to deal with, truly. I know alot of people can be a little over sensitive about the topic, so I totally get the line your talking about...no line here.
Why the dramatic fluctualtions though, is that weightlifting related?
Thanks again.
Originally posted by slowerthanslow: I am "muscular" for a girl and one of those few that can "bulk" fairly easily. Soccer legs and all that.
héhé.. I think we have alot in common! I'm 5'6", around 135 and bulk very easily.. Fencing legs and all that.. Plus I do alot of cardio and lift a couple of times a week. Some people say I have to beg a workout load.
Welcome back to the forum and hope you stick around.
ANUBIS.. I don't eat much and my weight shifts around 1-5 pounds in a week as well.
slowerthanslow, our body types are so similar that I could have written that part of your post for you. I hate scales...they never tell the truth! I don't know about you but I have big fluctuations in my "scale" weight all the time.I can fluctuate 5-7 lbs in a week easily. A heavy workout week=weight gain. A few days later if I've laid off, the "weight" disappears. You are training a LOT. I'm shocked that you are able to keep your weight up with that kind of routine but I sort of understand. I'm a thick girl and it takes a lot for me to lose weight too. I'm no physiologist or trainer but I think the weight gain is compensation for all the training (water retention etc)and as soon as you slow down you'll see a big difference. 5 lbs is no big deal.
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Marykaa and Odbsgirl, what is with that?! I get tired of hearing people constantly say "if your a women, unless your taking drugs or eating 1000 grams of protien, YOU WILL NOT BULK!" Come and visit me, I say! Someone once told me that I should be greatful for that, and I am, I dont mean to be ungreatful, however.....
Anyway, I agree with these double workouts, for hubby's sake, that my bod is probably in a bit of shock. I am trying to prevent what I think happened when I was training for my marathon, which was a lot of running and I wasnt paying any attention to my eating, i.e. probably not eating enough cals, and I think my bod went into preservation mode, to say the least. So I am trying to eat to keep up/hopefully in the meantime revving up my metabolism...fingers crossed. So I will stay away from the scale. My jeans are still buttoning, well, they are stretch jeans, but buttoning nonetheless, so I'll just keep to that.
Curious, have you guys ever really tried hard to drop 5 or 10 lbs and been able to do it in a healthy way and also is your bodyfat reasonable? I think mines high for what I do.
SLOWERTHANSLOW said :
Marykaa and Odbsgirl, what is with that?! I get tired of hearing people constantly say "if your a women, unless your taking drugs or eating 1000 grams of protien, YOU WILL NOT BULK!"
what the??? I said I bulk easily and alot as well..
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MARYKAA said :
I think we have alot in common! I'm 5'6", around 135 and bulk very easily.. Fencing legs and all that..
why are you getting all uptight?
I havent been able to get down below 136 for ages.. I'm giving it a "last" try.. with the South Beach Diet.. my bf% was 18 this summer I want to get it down to under 14. I have no idea if I'll be able to.. I'm on a 1 month Effort.
Omigod! Your 18% BF?! I can't imagine how good my body would look at 18%! If I look like this at like 25% I'd be a goddess at 18%. Well goodluck with your new effort. 14 seems kind of low but I know everyone is different.
Thanks for your responses, I continue the amazement at people that say women can't bulk!
YOU said :
I think the weight gain is compensation for all the training (water retention etc)and as soon as you slow down you'll see a big difference. 5 lbs is no big deal.
That is my experience as well. and I'm glad you think it's water and not muscle we loose so fast when we stop working out for a while. By boyfriend explained something about water being the liberated each time our muscles work. That really encouraged me ..
1) to know what's going on.
2) to know that HE knows what's going on LOL.
But I must say.. having been "bulky" all my life..(except the few years after my paralysis) I do get discouraged sometimes.. That's why This time I want to get my body fat down.
and by the way.. ODBSGIRL.. i would like to talk to you in private or e-mail sometimes. I feel we have quite a bit in common. I understand why you may want to keep your distances from the forum, but if change your mind.. e-mail me [img]smile.gif[/img]
How funny! My husband loves me and thinks I'm "perfect!!" Gotta love them for that!!
I did my first marathon in 5hrs, 20mins, I injured my leg with 6 miles to go, even without that i still woulda been close to 5! I love running though!
well thank you! coming from someone that hike an average of 5 hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thats quite a compliment coming from superwoman! Good god girl, no wonder your boy man loves you, you rock!
Omigosh! I will avoid calling you superwoman again, but damn! The price you pay for kids!
I have a friend that did the Appalachian for a 6 months? Have you done something like that or is that like a baby trail to you?
Actually I've fenced more.. and canoed more than hiked.. but it's not always (actually rarely ) about great exploits.. hiking (and canoeing) is about being out there.. and the Appalacian Trail is definitly out there .. That's something I'd love to do when I retire.. (but still have 14 years work before that.. so I'm not making any plans)
but tell me more about yourself! you have any kids?
I realized a while back that I had disabled the PM option and left it that way for various reasons but it's open now.
On the topic of bulking up: The reason women aren't able to bulk up to the degree that men are is a matter of testosterone. That doesn't mean that women don't bulk at all, it just means that some do, some don't and some can really buff up! It all depends.
I had my body fat % measured on a scale the other day at a wellness center. It said 25%. Now a few months ago I wouldn't have been surprised by that...I was not working out enough and had gained some weight. I'm like you STS-18%????? I can't imagine my body at 18%. Not that I'm visibly muscular really, I carry a lot of fat on my hips and thighs but wouldn't consider myself fat either. We'll see. I've been trying to incorporate more strength training into my workouts so maybe that # will change.
I don't post a training log here but I did finally start one this week on our site lisa's log
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Marykaa, are you saying your blessed on top?!
Lucky girl. Not sure though that that would have anything to do with the measurements seeing as when you use calipers, it squeezes, stomach, back, thighs,etc... maybe you were referring to those Tanita type scales that are supposed to meaure? In which case if its the type you stand on, it tends to feed back higher if your fat is bottom heavy, and arms if its one of those you hold.
Odb, thanks for your explanation and I agree.
have you trained heavy in the past? I def think it makes a big difference. My struggle right now is not the muscle, for sure. I have what I call a little chubby suit on, where if I flex its verrry obvious I'm packin some muscle, but unflexed its just kinda blah. So we seem about the same in regards to weight, bodyfat, etc...
sigh, comfort in numbers I guess, eh?
I will check out your log, thanks!
One thing I wonder.. how much of a womans bodyfat is breast size..? I would think that accounts for quite a bit.. [/quote]HAHAHA Yeah I suppose in my case that could account for some of it. Never even gave it much thought since it's so much more obvious in the lower body.
Marykaa-you will find a mixture of the exercises for canoeing and biking (road and mt) depending on what equipment I have available since I don't go to the gym. I'm working on increasing core and probably more back for canoeing in addition to better cardio. I'm not doing HIIT as much as I should because I'm not disciplined enough to incorporate it into my jogs to the bus stop when I know I'm going to have to jog home too. We'll see how things progress and I'll welcome suggestions for changes since I'm just kind of making it up as I go along. Did you get the book yet by the way?
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The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'.
maybe you were referring to those Tanita type scales that are supposed to meaure? In which case if its the type you stand on, it tends to feed back higher if your fat is bottom heavy, and arms if its one of those you hold.
I am really hoping this is true. This is the type of scale I was using. When I told another friend what the reading was she looked at me and said no way. Although my body is more in proportion right now than it has been in a long time, I still carry more fat on the bottom like most women. Except TrainingGirl, poor Tracy needs to let me tranfer some of my bbbb-bb-ooty for her so she won't have to work out so hard. Of course that would piss my husband off so the ass stays I guess.
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The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'.
Hey, my hubs pretty happy since I had the kids, it finally gave me a backside!
I think we tend to be harder on ourselves, so if your friend is one of those honest types, Im sure the scale misread. Have the calipers done by a reputable person who doesnt pinch too much otherwise their pinching muscle.
quote: maybe you were referring to those Tanita type scales that are supposed to meaure? In which case if its the type you stand on, it tends to feed back higher if your fat is bottom heavy, and arms if its one of those you hold.
I am really hoping this is true. This is the type of scale I was using. When I told another friend what the reading was she looked at me and said no way. Although my body is more in proportion right now than it has been in a long time, I still carry more fat on the bottom like most women. Except TrainingGirl, poor Tracy needs to let me tranfer some of my bbbb-bb-ooty for her so she won't have to work out so hard. Of course that would piss my husband off so the ass stays I guess. [/quote]Tanita's are famous for being off (reading too high). I wouldn't trust that figure too much if I were you either. And yes...please share the bootay..lol. Although I must admit, it is finally getting some decent shape to it...I just have to work my ass off (or on I guess) and eat a freakin' ton.
Hi Traininggirl! sorry to do this to you, but...I know from previous posts that you
do need to eat alot to build muscle on your
bod. Curious, when you "eat a ton" what does
a day look like for you. Not because I want to
copy you, cause clearly I cant do that, Im just
curious what that looks like! LOL
Isn't it funny how we all have such different needs. I feel guilty when I eat too much, especially sugar. Like today. I had thanksgiving "dinner" for lunch at work. Dang. Stuffing, sweet potatoes, I even had a piece of cake. I haven't had cake in a long time. I have almost no self control, that's why I stay a little big I think, a diet is almost impossible for me for any length of time. Dangit. Now I just feel bad and want to go work out.
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