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Old 07-12-2005, 04:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey, I don't know if any of you caught this in the news about a month ago. But there was a new study released that showed evidence that eating raw oysters, mussels, clams etc. raised Testosterone levels in males and Estrogen in females.
In the past, it was only theorized that the little invertebrates were an aphrodisiac. Now it's supposedly more of a fact.
The components that are responsible for the sex hormone increase are D-aspartic acid and NMDA (N-methyl-D-aspartate)
Unfortunately they can't harness the power of these components in pill form so you have to eat the buggers raw in order to reap the benefits.

My thoughts on this breakthough; "Why not eat mussels before a workout to increase your production of T??"

Any thoughts on this?
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http://health.yahoo.com/news/59709
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Old 07-12-2005, 06:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Mussels for muscles, eh? I wouldn't do it; some things just aren't worth the 5% improvement (or whatever it is) in T-levels. It's like the discussion on whether abtinence would raise or lower testosterone... even if it raised T-levels, I'm not going there.

However, I've also wondered about "guy movies" and T-levels. You know, the kind of movie that when it's over, you feel all pumped and like you could take on the whole world with no fear? Recent ones for me have been Chronicles of Riddick and Troy.

In the article series on T-nation about the average Joe on the juice, he talks about that invincible feeling as a result of the 'roids. I wonder if the invincible feeling after a guy movie is the same thing, and is actually a physiological effect, or if it's just male ego-driven fantasy and stupidity.

Bottom line on what I'd personally do to manipulate T-levels:
--Steroids: Heck no
--Raw shellfish: No, I don't think my vomiting would be good for hypertrophy
--Abstinence: No. Freakin'. Way.
--Guy movies: Aww yeah. I can picture it now...

"Sorry honey, I'm in a bulking phase, so we've gotta watch "Predator" tonight. Maybe we can watch "The Notebook" during my off week.
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Old 07-12-2005, 06:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You bring up some good points RL.

I guess it would be easier if someone liked oysters or other mussels to begin with. I actually like them, so for me it would be 'double your pleasure' by sucking down some oysters and then working out an hour or so later.

The benefits: Well, I've got my pre-workout protein, I'll eat them on crackers so there's the carbs and the Testosterone is the icing on the cake!
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Old 07-12-2005, 06:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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roids would probibly be cheaper and more effective. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 07-12-2005, 07:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
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No thanks Gobbla, if it's in food it's fine. If it's in a needle -not for me
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Old 07-12-2005, 07:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
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you know I'm teasing right?

you also know you can get pills\creams now too

Red brings up some interesting thoughts. Movies, aggressive things, or manly things (fighting, boobies pulling dollar bills out of your zipper) all give me that little surge of adrenaline, the breath goes "huff", blah, blah. Makes ya wonder of people constantly exposed to these things get a test boost?
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Old 07-12-2005, 08:19 PM   #7 (permalink)
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This is a semi-related article by Dr. John Berardi that discusses fluctuations in T-Levels.

The Big-T Part II
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Old 07-12-2005, 08:21 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Yeah, So perhaps before my next workout session I'll watch Rambo, go to a strip club while sucking down some oysters. My god even Barry Bonds T-levels will be mediocre compared to my surging levels of T.
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:34 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I am not a big fan of raw shell fish of any kind. Taste in part, but since shell fish are the "bottm feeders" they are the one of first in the food chain to gobble up all the toxins. So there is some actual health risk in eating raw mussels, oysters, etc. On particular problem in the US is that there are some area that this kind of harvesting is not alloowed for that reason, but there is harvestiung done there. They should not but there simple are not enough inspectors to safeguard the whole process and so you are not really sure of where your raw shellfish was harvested.


One example:
http://www.cspinet.org/reports/vibrio_vulnificus/1.html

see also:
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/disea...lnificus_g.htm
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Thanks for the info. Peter. Yeah, there are a lot of nasty microbes out there that can cause some pretty severe systematic problems. This type of thing can happen with undercooked meat as well as polluted water, contaminated needles (tattoo parlors, insulin, drugs), hell, there is even hordes of deadly bacteria in the soil.
You never can be too careful with anything. The V. vulnificus sounds like one I definitely wouldn't want to meet.
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Old 07-14-2005, 10:38 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Just eat more animal protein and fats. Train heavy, your T will be just fine. The Saxon brothers didn't even know what an oyster was.
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