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Recently I've been finding it hard to get as much protein as I need per day. I weigh 80Kg and so need about 180 grams per day, hoewver I've frequently been down around the 140/150 mark.
Is it ok if I simply up the amount I have in my post workout shake (sasy two scoops instead of one) this would give me about 50g of protein in the shake. Is that too much for one serving, or is it ok?
However, you should try to get a decent amount of P at each feeding. You'd be better off, for 180g, to get about 30g at each feeding, assuming you eat 6 times per day.
You might be better off with one scoop in that PWO shake, then have the other scoop in an hour. Or, have it as a drink with one of your snacks that's low in P.
I found 180g to be a challenge, at first. Now, I regularly eat 230g+ on non-workout days. Quite a bit more on days when I lift.
It was a gradual shift, but having at least 30g of P at each feeding really helped. I used to snack on nuts and apples, now I have some cottage cheese, jerky, or just another small meal. My snacks and meals aren't much different from one another.
I'm pretty new at this but I find it sooo easy to get my protein in my drinking Nectar Protein.
I couldnt stomach the chocolate or vanilla protein shakes anymore so this stuff is great. It comes in lemonade, iced tea, fruit punch, etc...if you google or yahoo nectar protein it'll show ya where to go, I just found some for 20.95 but I had to pay for shipping.
anyway, I find this to be the answer to my protein prayers. 2 scoops can dissolve in a water bottle of water with some room for icecubes and not be too too strong for me and 2 scoops is like 40+ grams! Its whey isolate.
Please no one pop this protein bubble.
I see nothing too terrible about this stuff. The aspartame is hardly favorable, but I've seen worse things in powders. Hmmm, those colorings aren't that hot either...
rockhard, I said DONT pop my bubble!
admittadly, as terrible as it might sound, Im ok
with some artificial stuff if the fat comes off.
Is that terrible?
Originally posted by slowerthanslow: rockhard, I said DONT pop my bubble!
admittadly, as terrible as it might sound, Im ok
with some artificial stuff if the fat comes off.
Is that terrible?
Yes, it's terrible! Despicable, horrific! Go saw off one of your extremities as punishment!
It's not that bad, just not perfect. Many other whey proteins don't have that stuff, that's all.
sigh, ok heres your assignment should you choose to accept. Find me a protein powder that is NOT chocolate or vanilla puke, easy to drink with water, like its nothing!!!thank you
johnny. no one knows how much protein will\can be absorbed at any given time. It might differ from person to person for any # of factors and then differ by time of day\how much your body needs protein at that moment, ect.
Originally posted by slowerthanslow: sigh, ok heres your assignment should you choose to accept. Find me a protein powder that is NOT chocolate or vanilla puke, easy to drink with water, like its nothing!!!thank you
I drink Optimum Nutrition's 100% Natural Whey in both chocolate and vanilla (not chocolate and vanilla puke...lol). I can drink them easily in water. Drink them in skim milk a lot too. They do have other flavors as well...just haven't tried them yet.
Bob, I think 50g is fine. I have to double up sometimes as well.
I think bryanC,one of jp's most intelligent people by the way, informed us that only 15 grams of protein were sufficient or something along those lines and having the research to back it up.
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Not trying to dissagree with or discourage anyone BUT someone having "research to back them up" only means so much. Look at the "top ten training myths" thread and see how many things all of us have been doing that was backed up by research to get another view to say that the research was crap and we should look at Y instead of Z.
Whether you go with 15 or 20g in your Pre or Post WOS...it probibly really doesn't matter in the grander scheme of things...if you're eating right anyway it probibly wouldn't matter that much less. [img]smile.gif[/img]
gobbla we can't go around making blanket statements. I thought the purpose of this board was science backed not muscle mag backed. just making an observation.
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Protein makes you feel full/satisfied faster, so a meal rich in P can help those of us who are dieting down.
Protein produces the greatest thermic effect (thermic effect of feeding) on the body, compared to the other macros.
you are mistaking protein for cho's. as dietary cho's increase , the TEF of the meal increases. unfefined cho's tend to take longer to chew and digest. they also enter the bloodstream more slowly. this slower digestive pace tends to make people feel full sooner and for a longer period, lessening the chance of overeating.
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I see nothing too terrible about this stuff. The aspartame is hardly favorable, but I've seen worse things in powders. Hmmm, those colorings aren't that hot either...
Anybody else?
On the upside, it has an extremely high percentage of protein per scoop. 85%
Originally posted by von_Hayes: Protein makes you feel full/satisfied faster, so a meal rich in P can help those of us who are dieting down.
Protein produces the greatest thermic effect (thermic effect of feeding) on the body, compared to the other macros.
you are mistaking protein for cho's. as dietary cho's increase , the TEF of the meal increases. unfefined cho's tend to take longer to chew and digest. they also enter the bloodstream more slowly. this slower digestive pace tends to make people feel full sooner and for a longer period, lessening the chance of overeating.
Protein takes the most energy to process, then carbs, then fat. I'd agree that unrefined carbs might take more energy than refined, though. At the very least, they are slower to digest...
von> I'm not arguing the point of the board, I'm just saying that there are thousands of "studies" floating around in the world that have different results. bottom line is that there's a great deal of knowedge that no one *knows*. and it best not to get hung up on details that no one has the answer to.
supliment company's have research out the ass and oddly enough it backs up their claims 100%.
Originally posted by von_Hayes: gobbla you are right. you also have to consider the source. we must use caution when giving certain advice.. wouldn't you agree
I would agree whole heartily...which is why I first posted. Take any evidence and look at it hard...*post workout shake* what kind of cross section did they use (age, gender, condition) how did they test (5g-50g) on each PWO, did they do it starting at 1min afterwards to 8 hours afterwards? how long did the test last (5 days or 50 years?).
IMO we are no where NEAR the knowedge level we need to be to comment on nutricion *factually* in terms of blankets...let alone specifics. Sorry for the rant.
keeping in mind that *some* research points to it being detrimental to drink a PWO directly after working out but to drink it 1hr afterwards (folowed by another an hour later), and then it would be more benificial to take strait amino acids vs whey, as they digest noticibly quicker.
pre workout being your main concern (everything you said about post workout applying here).
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