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Hi all! I am presently in my 2nd week of 40-30-30 protien heavy. Trying to lose fat/weight. I am pushing the weights heavy and doing no more than 30 minute intervals, either speed (never ran for speed before, I'm too slow!) and hills. Liking it alot. I really miss easy/longer runs. I have decided on my OFF weight days to run a fairly hilly 5 miler here in town 1-2x a week.
Will this somehow stunt my fat/weightloss?
This might sound like a silly question but I have run slow and easy distances for years and
stayed reasonably fit but a little pudgy. Thats what I am trying to lose and have been told on this forum and thru trainers, in order to lose weight I should stop those distances and do intervals. MUCH LESS CARDIO, was the bottom line.
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You started at 136. Have you lost any weight in 2 weeks? How many calories are you eating now? How many were you eating before you started this plan? How do you measure your bodyfat?
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Wow thanks, emartin, BTW, looooove Lance, as if that needs to even be said! My whole morning workout routine changes the month of July!!! Woo hoo, go Lance. #7
Anyway, hey OldGuy: No weightloss in 2 weeks according to the scale. Lotsa compliments though like wow, have you lost weight and such. Arm muscles and leg muscles, definitely more defined. Probably from the "debloat" of higher carbs for running. I am eating around 1800. Calories before about the same, some days less. Bodyfat was like 26% taken my a trainer here in CT who trains bodybuilders. Has his own company, NOT a gym dude. I think that was all your questions. Are you gonna explain my running question now that I've answered some questions?
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The running will not stunt your weight loss/fat loss. Distance running will have a catabolic effect on muscle gain (you will lose some muscle mass). If that is not an issue then go ahead and run on your off days. However understand that more muscle = higher metabolism which could result in more fat loss when in a caloric deficit.
How are you doing your intervals?
And you need to have some patience. Rome wasn't built in a day.
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Hey OldGuy, Never been to Rome, though I hear its beautiful I am NOT patient. I suppose I will have to learn. But I guess I don't understand WHY, if I was running like 50mpw and eating anywhere from 1400-2000 a day, higher carb, why did I not lose weight (calorie in/out) I may seem thick here and I may seem like I'm repeating myself from previous posts. I just dont get it. I am printing off and reading a ton of JB's articles and thats really what convinced me to try the "dreaded" higher protien deal and less running. I just don't know why for instance, if I don't wanna get "big" and I do think for a girl I get big when I pump, why I can't lift weights say 3x a week and run a ton, why I don't lose weight that way?
Intervals, warmup @5.0 400meters at 8.0, recover @5.0 repeat 400, than 200 2x @8.5, than 100 2x's @8.5 total of about 30 minutes running and about 2.75miles
Cappucino lifts weights and runs and she has made great progress in both - stronger and faster.(she has pics posted in the thread so you can see the changes). True, she has a great program from a top flight coach, but the biggest thing you can see from this thread is her dedication. That's where you will see progress.
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Thanks OldGuy. Been running those kinds of distances on and off since I was a teenager. So def, enough time. Just thought maybe you had a "theory" Will check out that thread right now. Thank you for all your help!
I read a post a while back (in a response from Alwyne Cosgrove, I believe), that seemed to indicate that endurance athletes (and the people that endlessly use the aerobics equipment and classes at gyms) become acclimated to the amount and level of effort put into the exercise.
Once your body is used to a level of activity, it adjusts, becoming more efficient. It keeps you from losing fat/weight. The key to losing fat/weight is to make your body inefficient again.
Things like HIIT, interval style cardio, sprints, etc. are good ways to change things up. On the resistance side, periodization, Turbulence Training from Craig Ballantyne, Alwyn's Cosgrove's Afterburn program, etc. are good ways to lift in ways that keep your body from becoming efficient.
Exactly. Your body is very efficient from all the running. Lifting weights will help tremendously and changing your cardio around should confuse your body even more. We've got two long distance runners in my office and they both have guts.... So why do the four "bodybuilders" that only run 8-10 miles per week, ride bikes, play ball, etc... all have nice flat stomachs?? Go figure.
So, though my love for running may be healthy and admirable, (well to me anyway) it may also be keeping me pudgy.....alrighty than. Off to Interval world I go. Thank you All
HEY IF A RUNNERS BODY GETS SO EFFICIENT, WHY IS DEAN KARNAZES RIPPED?
Originally posted by slowerthanslow: So, though my love for running may be healthy and admirable, (well to me anyway) it may also be keeping me pudgy.....alrighty than. Off to Interval world I go. Thank you All
HEY IF A RUNNERS BODY GETS SO EFFICIENT, WHY IS DEAN KARNAZES RIPPED?
Don't think of it as keeping you pudgy. It's just that it's not helping to lose the fat. It's not actually hurting anything. But, you can incorporate the running that you love into a new routine and get the best of both worlds.
In addition to doing some intervals, hills, weights, you might try cutting down on some of the long runs or changing them up a bit.
I think you can still enjoy your runs, just think of them as only one tool in your fat loss arsenal. One needs a variety of tools to build the perfect home.
I won't bore you with the tried to run 5 miles say mwf and weights t,th and saw no results.
But what Im starting to think of with say
a 35-35-30 menu is the 3x a week full body lifting. 30min interval hills 1x a week, 30min
speed intervals 1x a week and an outside 5+ "longer" run 1x with 1 rest day. How does that sound? I dont think Ive ever tried this with the 35-35-30 and intervals for longer than a couple of weeks.
I am NOT patient. I suppose I will have to learn. But I guess I don't understand WHY, if I was running like 50mpw and eating anywhere from 1400-2000 a day, higher carb, why did I not lose weight (calorie in/out) I may seem thick here and I may seem like I'm repeating myself from previous posts. I just dont get it. I am printing off and reading a ton of JB's articles and thats really what convinced me to try the "dreaded" higher protien deal and less running. I just don't know why for instance, if I don't wanna get "big" and I do think for a girl I get big when I pump, why I can't lift weights say 3x a week and run a ton, why I don't lose weight that way?
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